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Planning a trip to New York? Save a fortune in Avios and cash by flying Iberia

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I was thinking about writing a me-too article about the United States lifting the travel ban on vaccinated UK citizens, but I couldn’t face it.  It’s all over your newspaper this morning and we can’t add much.

Instead, I thought it worth focusing on the one Avios trick that is worth knowing today – how to save a huge sum in Avios and cash when heading to New York, by using Iberia.

Planning an Avios trip to New York? Save a fortune with Iberia

How to redeem Avios via Iberia Plus

This article is a long one, so let’s quickly summarise what you need to know:

  • When travelling to the US East Coast, the number of Avios you need is substantially lower with Iberia – from just 68,000 Avios return in Business Class
  • If that wasn’t good enough news, when booking Iberia flights via Iberia Plus, taxes and charges are lower and availability is better than if you book BA via British Airways Executive Club. You save £463 per person in taxes and charges to New York, as I will show.
  • Iberia has its own peak and off-peak calendar which can work in your favour, as UK school holidays are often off-peak
Planning an Avios trip to New York? Save a fortune with Iberia

Why should you redeem Avios on Iberia via Iberia Plus?

When an Avios collector in the UK looks for a long-haul redemption, British Airways is the obvious choice of airline. However, the taxes and charges can often be very high – often £650 per Club World seat to North America and £550 elsewhere.

Taxes on Iberia flights are often a fraction of those charged by British Airways – although Air Passenger Duty will be added if your connecting flight from the UK is on the same ticket.

Business Class seating on Iberia

Iberia has been through a substantial restructuring since being bought by IAG, the parent company of British Airways.  16 new long-haul aircraft – 8 x A330’s and 8 x A350’s – have been delivered and older aircraft retired.

Iberia has no First Class.  The great news is that, over the last decade, Iberia has installed new fully flat seating across its long-haul fleet:

Iberia business class seat

Rhys was recently lucky enough to fly it on an A350 on a London to Madrid flight as you can read (and see) here.  Iberia runs a few London to Madrid services a week with long-haul aircraft and flat beds in business class because it needs the cargo capacity offered by the bigger aircraft.

How cheap are Iberia redemptions to the US East Coast?

Iberia has its own reward pricing chart with its own peak and off-peak dates (click to enlarge):

Iberia redemption chart

and

Iberia redemption Avios chart

This chart is NOT the same as the British Airways chart:

Avios redemption chart

The charts are nearly the same, but not quite.

There are substantial differences in the 3,000 to 4,000 mile zone which covers the US East Coast.

Let’s take New York as an example. Both British Airways and Iberia price New York as a Zone 5 redemption. However:

  • Iberia, as you can see above, charges 68,000 Avios off-peak and 100,000 Avios peak for a return Business Class flight to New York
  • British Airways charges 100,000 Avios off-peak and 120,000 Avios peak for a return Club World flight to New York

There are not many destinations which are served by both BA and Iberia so the opportunities for arbitrage are limited.  You also need to factor in the cost and time of getting to Madrid, although if you live outside London it is not massively more complex than changing planes at Heathrow.

Travelling to the US West Coast?  This isn’t as straightforward.  London to San Francisco is a Zone 6 flight, for example, whilst Madrid to San Francisco is Zone 7 as it is a longer trip.  Despite that, off-peak, Iberia from Madrid is still – despite being priced as Zone 7 – cheaper than a Zone 6 flight from London on BA.  You need to do the maths and also compare the taxes.

A word about peak and off peak dates

Just to make life even more complex, Iberia has its own list of peak and off-peak dates. This is different from the British Airways list. Here are the dates for 2021 and 2022 (click to enlarge):

2021 and 2022 British Airways peak and off-peak Avios dates:

British Airways off peak and peak Avios calendar 2021
British Airways peak off peak Avios redemption calendar 2022

2021 and 2022 Iberia peak and off-peak Avios dates:

Iberia peak offpeak avios redemption calendar 2021
Iberia peak off peak Avios redemption calendar 2022

October half-term, for example, is primarily – across the two weeks – peak for British Airways. Iberia shows a lot more off-peak dates during this period.

Show me some actual numbers ….

Let’s look at Madrid to New York in Business Class, return:

  • Iberia, when you book on iberia.com, will charge 68,000 Avios plus €240 (£206) return on off-peak dates
  • A BA redemption from London to New York (booked via ba.com on a BA plane) in Club World costs 100,000 Avios plus £669 on an off-peak date.  That is, by any stretch, a big difference.
  • More interestingly, if you try to book the Iberia Madrid to New York flight on ba.com using BA Avios, it will charge you £381 of taxes and charges.  This is for the SAME Iberia flight which requires only £206 of taxes and charges on iberia.com using Iberia Avios. BA just pockets the extra £175.

This is not necessarily easy, of course.

  • From the UK, you need to fly to Madrid. However, if you are not based in London you will be taking a connecting flight anyway and the saving probably justifies not flying direct from London.
  • The London to Madrid flight cannot be booked on the same itinerary as the Madrid to New York flight or you will be obliged to pay UK Air Passenger Duty at the long-haul rate.
  • Since you will have separate tickets, Iberia is not obliged to look after you if you miss your long-haul flight – although if you fly Iberia from London, it is very unlikely they would abandon you if the delay was down to them.
  • A flight from London to Madrid, return, costs 15,000 Avios and £35 in Economy – but that is hardly making a great dent in your £463 per person saving.

Conclusion

If you mind is pondering a short break in New York or elsewhere on the US East Coast, don’t forget the exceptional Avios value offered by Iberia.

The saving on taxes and charge is HUGE – £669 per person on BA from London to New York versus £206 per person on Iberia from Madrid to New York. This is before you factor in the saving of 32,000 Avios per person on off-peak days.

In return for a detour via Madrid – which is not necessarily a hardship – you can save a substantial amount in both Avios and taxes and charges on your way to New York.


How to earn Avios points from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (December 2021)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways BA Amex American Express card

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up, no annual fee and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending ….. Read our full review

British Airways BA Premium Plus American Express Amex credit card

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the UK’s most valuable credit card perk – the 2-4-1 companion voucher Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points, such as:

Nectar American Express

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & two airport lounge passes Read our full review

American Express Platinum card Amex

The Platinum Card from American Express

30,000 points and an unbeatable set of travel benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital On Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, along with a sign-up bonus worth 10,500 Avios:

Capital On Tap Business Rewards Visa

The most generous Avios Visa or Mastercard for a limited company Read our full review

You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies and has a 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus:

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express card

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

(Want to earn more Avios?  Click here to visit our home page for our latest articles on earning and spending your Avios points and click here to see how to earn more Avios this month from offers and promotions.)

Comments (58)

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  • Capecam says:

    Want to fly to USA with Iberia .My Iberia Plus Avious balance shows minus 89,000 balance ( yes munus) because i took full advantage of the crazy promo you featured a few years ago and transferred out to BA avios. Does anybody have exprience of how to get this zeroed without depositing 89000 ?

    • James says:

      Just close the account and open a new one

    • John T says:

      I think a lot of H4P-ers probably still have negative Iberia Plus balances! Does it allow you to link a new IB Plus account to your BA Avios account or does it flag that you are trying to get around your negative balance??

  • Mikeact says:

    We took full advantage of that crazy offer and made sure we didn’t have a minus amount to worry about..there is a potential way around it but I’ll leave others to verify.
    However, re Madrid to the US, we’ve done it five times now….dead easy and never had a problem. First connection out of London, then lounge use in Madrid for a few hours, and away.

  • Peter Williams says:

    If you fly via Madrid on Iberia, and are travelling on separate bookings as Rob explains, will Iberia check the bags through to the final destination from London or do you have to check in separately at Madrid? I remember that BA has some complex rules about refusing to check in bags to a final destination if you are travelling on two separate bookings. Perhaps this isn’t a problem if the airline is the same, even if there are two separate bookings.

    • Phillip says:

      I’ve not had a problem getting through checked luggage on Iberia with two separate tickets, but they always tell you it’s at the discretion of the check in staff.

  • David says:

    Iberia may offer good value but if anything goes wrong you’re likely to face massive frustration as the customer service is truly shocking. Lengthy delays answering calls, wildly erratic decision-making from agents and/or refusal to offer options that should be available.

    Maybe that’s just all airlines nowadays?! But in my experience Iberia remains something else.

    Latest saga with them, on which I’d appreciate any HfPer wisdom:

    Flight has been booked with Iberia from Caracas to Tenerife via Madrid since April 2021. Iberia have cancelled the flight multiple times and offered later dates, most recently a flight scheduled for January 2022. The pandemic and Venezuela being a mess are challenging context of course, but other airlines are flying from Caracas to Europe – direct and via other countries – so it seems like there’s something going on specific to Iberia.

    It’s got to the stage now when we just want to cancel and book with another airline. However, before we cancel are there any regulations that we could be pushing to get Iberia to reroute on another carrier who is flying? Also, presumably we are entitled to a refund rather than a voucher as Iberia have repeatedly cancelled the flight?

    During the last unsatisfactory conversation we had with Iberia they refused to offer either…

    Thanks in advance.

    • Lady London says:

      You’ll have to sue them using their UK address via moneyclaimonline.gov.uk.

      Go through the motions of requesting a refund based on their latest cancellation that you didn’t accept (a move to another date by them is a cancellation). Be prepared to take enforcement action after you win the money claim which you will. Base statute is EU261 and similar in UK law that gets you the right to choose and receive full refund if they cancel. It overrides any of Iberia’s rules, practices, insufficiencies and incompetencies.

      If you are lucky and paid by UK credit card ask your card for the cost of replacement tickets even if higher, on another airline for which card is jointly liable with Iberia.

      If Amex charge card ask Amex if their policy covers it.

      Any other card try a chargeback.

      Otherwise you will be forced to mcol but likely to be done all remotely no court appearance

      • David says:

        Thanks Lady London – very helpful!

        • Mikeact says:

          I think their UK address could be problematic, they will probably push it over to Spain, and good luck with that. And good luck trying a chargeback at this stage.
          You need somebody on here who has been successful with a refund. I guess it was a cash booking and no Avios involved

          • Lady London says:

            They have a presence here so can be sued here.

            More interestingly Iberia flies planes into, and they hope out of, Heathrow every day. A bailiff actioned by an unpaid court judgment can meet any Iberia plane and have it impounded if the judgment is not paid.

            I forgot to say if you’re lucky enough to have paid by UK credit card you ask them for Section 75 protection. This, unlike chargeback, will pay replacement cost even if higher.

          • Lady London says:

            The clock for Section 75 starts ticking IIRC as soon as you realise you are in a loss situation ie what you purchased (or statutory rights pertaining to what you purchased) is not going to be provided. Naturally in the case of an air ticket your moment of realizing this may well be considerably after your purchase.

            I’m not sure about chargeback – that may have a harder limit.

  • Lady London says:

    Today only FLY50 code gets 50% off Vueling flights (Basic only) flying till 16th December

  • David says:

    Although more Avios (100K DUB-JFK) the tax with Aer Lingus is £471 for 2 return.
    Flights are cheaper to Dublin with Ryanair and you clear US immigration before you leave Dublin.

  • Phil says:

    I’m trying to work out the Avios needed for Madrid to LAX 14 Dec to 3 Jan but as all my points are in BA and Amex accounts it won’t tell me.

    Each flight shows as 21, 250 in blue class (what’s that?) or 27,750 in economy. But at the bottom of the screen it says:
    Sorry, you don’t have enough Avios for this flight.
    You can buy the Avios you need and select your flight again.
    The cheapest option is
    46,250 Avios + £ 171.40
    But that is more than 21,250 x2
    So I’m a bit confused what it would be if I had the Avios in my Iberia account.

  • Mikeact says:

    Took a look for you. Out is OK.. direct, but return, no direct but via Heathrow. Using Avios, prices range from around 59k Avios + €271, down to 17.3kAvios + €686.
    But no frills Blue class…can still take 23kg case…limited sales per flight, is around, cash €600 per person….not a bad price down the back, but have to be quick for these prices.
    Try not to give yourself a heart attack when on their site..patience…patience…patience, and paper and pen to hand.
    I’ve found the UK number…via Spain helpful.
    020 368 43774
    And the best of luck !

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