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Planning a trip to New York? Save a fortune in Avios and cash by flying Iberia

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I was thinking about writing a me-too article about the United States lifting the travel ban on vaccinated UK citizens, but I couldn’t face it.  It’s all over your newspaper this morning and we can’t add much.

Instead, I thought it worth focusing on the one Avios trick that is worth knowing today – how to save a huge sum in Avios and cash when heading to New York, by using Iberia.

Planning an Avios trip to New York? Save a fortune with Iberia

How to redeem Avios via Iberia Plus

This article is a long one, so let’s quickly summarise what you need to know:

  • When travelling to the US East Coast, the number of Avios you need is substantially lower with Iberia – from just 68,000 Avios return in Business Class
  • If that wasn’t good enough news, when booking Iberia flights via Iberia Plus, taxes and charges are lower and availability is better than if you book BA via British Airways Executive Club. You save £463 per person in taxes and charges to New York, as I will show.
  • Iberia has its own peak and off-peak calendar which can work in your favour, as UK school holidays are often off-peak
Planning an Avios trip to New York? Save a fortune with Iberia

Why should you redeem Avios on Iberia via Iberia Plus?

When an Avios collector in the UK looks for a long-haul redemption, British Airways is the obvious choice of airline. However, the taxes and charges can often be very high – often £650 per Club World seat to North America and £550 elsewhere.

Taxes on Iberia flights are often a fraction of those charged by British Airways – although Air Passenger Duty will be added if your connecting flight from the UK is on the same ticket.

Business Class seating on Iberia

Iberia has been through a substantial restructuring since being bought by IAG, the parent company of British Airways.  16 new long-haul aircraft – 8 x A330’s and 8 x A350’s – have been delivered and older aircraft retired.

Iberia has no First Class.  The great news is that, over the last decade, Iberia has installed new fully flat seating across its long-haul fleet:

Iberia business class seat

Rhys was recently lucky enough to fly it on an A350 on a London to Madrid flight as you can read (and see) here.  Iberia runs a few London to Madrid services a week with long-haul aircraft and flat beds in business class because it needs the cargo capacity offered by the bigger aircraft.

How cheap are Iberia redemptions to the US East Coast?

Iberia has its own reward pricing chart with its own peak and off-peak dates (click to enlarge):

Iberia redemption chart

and

Iberia redemption Avios chart

This chart is NOT the same as the British Airways chart:

Avios redemption chart

The charts are nearly the same, but not quite.

There are substantial differences in the 3,000 to 4,000 mile zone which covers the US East Coast.

Let’s take New York as an example. Both British Airways and Iberia price New York as a Zone 5 redemption. However:

  • Iberia, as you can see above, charges 68,000 Avios off-peak and 100,000 Avios peak for a return Business Class flight to New York
  • British Airways charges 100,000 Avios off-peak and 120,000 Avios peak for a return Club World flight to New York

There are not many destinations which are served by both BA and Iberia so the opportunities for arbitrage are limited.  You also need to factor in the cost and time of getting to Madrid, although if you live outside London it is not massively more complex than changing planes at Heathrow.

Travelling to the US West Coast?  This isn’t as straightforward.  London to San Francisco is a Zone 6 flight, for example, whilst Madrid to San Francisco is Zone 7 as it is a longer trip.  Despite that, off-peak, Iberia from Madrid is still – despite being priced as Zone 7 – cheaper than a Zone 6 flight from London on BA.  You need to do the maths and also compare the taxes.

A word about peak and off peak dates

Just to make life even more complex, Iberia has its own list of peak and off-peak dates. This is different from the British Airways list. Here are the dates for 2021 and 2022 (click to enlarge):

2021 and 2022 British Airways peak and off-peak Avios dates:

British Airways off peak and peak Avios calendar 2021
British Airways peak off peak Avios redemption calendar 2022

2021 and 2022 Iberia peak and off-peak Avios dates:

Iberia peak offpeak avios redemption calendar 2021
Iberia peak off peak Avios redemption calendar 2022

October half-term, for example, is primarily – across the two weeks – peak for British Airways. Iberia shows a lot more off-peak dates during this period.

Show me some actual numbers ….

Let’s look at Madrid to New York in Business Class, return:

  • Iberia, when you book on iberia.com, will charge 68,000 Avios plus €240 (£206) return on off-peak dates
  • A BA redemption from London to New York (booked via ba.com on a BA plane) in Club World costs 100,000 Avios plus £669 on an off-peak date.  That is, by any stretch, a big difference.
  • More interestingly, if you try to book the Iberia Madrid to New York flight on ba.com using BA Avios, it will charge you £381 of taxes and charges.  This is for the SAME Iberia flight which requires only £206 of taxes and charges on iberia.com using Iberia Avios. BA just pockets the extra £175.

This is not necessarily easy, of course.

  • From the UK, you need to fly to Madrid. However, if you are not based in London you will be taking a connecting flight anyway and the saving probably justifies not flying direct from London.
  • The London to Madrid flight cannot be booked on the same itinerary as the Madrid to New York flight or you will be obliged to pay UK Air Passenger Duty at the long-haul rate.
  • Since you will have separate tickets, Iberia is not obliged to look after you if you miss your long-haul flight – although if you fly Iberia from London, it is very unlikely they would abandon you if the delay was down to them.
  • A flight from London to Madrid, return, costs 15,000 Avios and £35 in Economy – but that is hardly making a great dent in your £463 per person saving.

Conclusion

If you mind is pondering a short break in New York or elsewhere on the US East Coast, don’t forget the exceptional Avios value offered by Iberia.

The saving on taxes and charge is HUGE – £669 per person on BA from London to New York versus £206 per person on Iberia from Madrid to New York. This is before you factor in the saving of 32,000 Avios per person on off-peak days.

In return for a detour via Madrid – which is not necessarily a hardship – you can save a substantial amount in both Avios and taxes and charges on your way to New York.


How to earn Avios points from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (December 2021)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways BA Amex American Express card

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up, no annual fee and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending ….. Read our full review

British Airways BA Premium Plus American Express Amex credit card

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the UK’s most valuable credit card perk – the 2-4-1 companion voucher Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points, such as:

Nectar American Express

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & two airport lounge passes Read our full review

American Express Platinum card Amex

The Platinum Card from American Express

30,000 points and an unbeatable set of travel benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital On Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, along with a sign-up bonus worth 10,500 Avios:

Capital On Tap Business Rewards Visa

The most generous Avios Visa or Mastercard for a limited company Read our full review

You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies and has a 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus:

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express card

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

(Want to earn more Avios?  Click here to visit our home page for our latest articles on earning and spending your Avios points and click here to see how to earn more Avios this month from offers and promotions.)

Comments (58)

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  • Beardless Hipster says:

    Best cash deal currently CDG-NYC from £1028 return, wide open all next year.

  • Lee says:

    Had been trying to book tickets to Florida our before Christmas and back in January.

    Silly money for premium cabins on BA so booked Avios to Atlanta in business. However can’t get anything decent in a car hire.

    So trying to cancel the Avios booking. Seems impossible. Just being told to do it online. BA website says you can’t with Avios. Twitter is just a bot. Phone lines say that we are too busy etc.

    I suspect going to Florida over Christmas is not going to happen. Been waiting for this for a couple of years.

    I panicked when it was first announced. Not enough seats to the USA.

    Any advice, please?!

    • Jon says:

      Supposedly there’s a shortage of rental cars. A quick search says a grand for a two week rental in something like a Corolla.

    • BLT says:

      Try car rental with a pickup from a non airport location. It’s working with Avis and hertz for next year.

    • Ian Hubbard says:

      Hi
      I was in an identical situation but for March 22. One evening I thought I will try Booking.com and it came up with a great price, but I had to pay in full (with cancellation refund still available).
      Two weeks car hire, Chevy Malibu (or equivalent) collect Keywest airport, return Miami airport for £425.
      It may be worth a try.
      Good luck

      • Ian Hubbard says:

        Sorry forgot to say, with Hertz

        • Ian Hubbard says:

          Out of interest I have just tried a two week holiday starting 23 December, all other details the same and the offer is not available. Cheapest car £1388 with Alamo.
          Looks like Hertz must have wanted funds when I booked on 21 August
          Let’s hope I actually get a car 😄😄

    • Louise K says:

      As someone suggested – try city location and I find Expedia good for cars. Got a cracking deal for Hawaii next year.

    • Michael C says:

      Have a couple of days in Atalanta, then a cheap Spirit/Frontier flight to Orlando, and the car from then on?

    • Sammyj says:

      Try Qeeq for cat hire, they’ve been giving me normal prices in the US when everyone else is 2-3x the usual.

    • Joshua says:

      Try Turo? I’ve used it a few times, with 4 different hosts supplying cars.

      • Dawn says:

        I was also forced to look at Turo after car rental prices in USA have gone through the roof. My USA trip got cancelled so I didn’t need to do it in the end. However, after investigating Turo and asking many who have used it, I would book with them.

  • @mkcol says:

    NB: the BA 2022 calendar isn’t clickable like the others are.

  • Jon says:

    I doubt you’d have been able to have been any clearer then all the newspapers anyway – nobody has any clue about the status of AZ vaccines as part of this new deal.

  • Rob M says:

    Has anyone tried booking over the phone to see if you can get MAD – NYC outbound, then something like NYC- MAD – NCL on the return? You can do this with BA – e.g depart DUB to get low APD and return elsewhere – e.g. NCL

  • Doug M says:

    Do Iberia redemptions have same cancellation ease as BA?
    Iberia supporting you on missed connections between separate tickets, are there examples of that? My understanding is BA certainly don’t help in same circumstances.

    • Rob says:

      Iberia doesn’t have to help you either, you need to cross your fingers.

      Cancellation must be done by telephone so good luck with that ….

    • lumma says:

      Iberia metal and not “blue class” economy have same cancellation policy

    • Lady London says:

      Bad enough getting Iberia to do what they are supposed to do, let alone if they’re fully within their rights to abandon you.

      I had an Iberia agent tell me, literally, Iberia’s own terms and conditions apply over and above EU261.

      I would rely on Iberia for nothing. My experience was they wouldn’t even fix a problem caused by them.

      If anything goes wrong, assume Iberia will abandon you.

      • Jk says:

        Pretty much spot on. If all goes to plan then things are ok. If anything doesn’t, you’re on your own and they don’t want to know about it.

        • TGLoyalty says:

          Easy use some of the £800 you save for a couple to spend on a night in Madrid.

  • Alan says:

    Agree great savings and previously I’d have considered it, but for now I think I’d try and minimise connecting in a 3rd country to reduce the chance of changing entry requirements, etc.

  • Terwri says:

    Still trying to cancel or move our miami return avios flight for this coming weekend. As soon as i choose the option for an avios flight on the phone line, it cuts off. Been trying off and on for a week now! Do I have to take a voucher when I do get through?

    • Save East Coast Rewards says:

      Are any flights in your booking cancelled by BA?
      If yes – you can move it to any dates you want up to a year after ticketing. Avios availability needed
      If no – you can move to other dates if there’s Avios availability on those dates
      If there’s no availability you either can take a voucher or take a refund paying the £35 admin fee per person.
      Taking the voucher means you don’t have to pay the fee but it means you’ll also have to phone up and rebook in the future

      • flyforfun says:

        Are they still doing the voucher? I have a 241 voucher expiring next month and wondered if this was still going to keep it alive.

        Trouble is, I’ll have 4 vouchers in the bank after today and I don’t think I’ll have enough trips to make in the future to use them!

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