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How does the new IHG Rewards points pricing vary at the same hotel?

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On Wednesday we ran a detailed analysis of the new IHG Rewards hotel redemption pricing.

My conclusion is that there has not been a wholesale devaluation, and there has not been a move to revenue-based redemptions. The link between room rate and points price is weak. This applies irrespective of the market position of the hotel.

You can read more about this if you click here.

Today I want to look at something different. Instead of looking at 38 London hotels on the same day – as I did on Wednesday – I want to look at the same London hotel across 31 days.

I picked Holiday Inn Camden Lock, host of two previous Head for Points reader parties. I like this hotel, partly because many rooms overlook the canal and partly because you can be in Camden Market within 60 seconds.

Here is how the pricing works for July 2021. The cash price is the IHG ‘member rate’ for that day.

The numbers below are points for a standard room, the ‘member rate’ cash price for a standard room and the ‘pence per point’ calculation.

  • Thursday 1st – 67,000 / £159 / 0.24p
  • Friday 2nd – 62,000 / £147 / 0.24p
  • Saturday 3rd – 67,000 / £159 / 0.24p
  • Sunday 4th – 54,000 / £142 / 0.26p
  • Monday 5th – 65,000 / £182 / 0.28p
  • Tuesday 6th – 38,000 / £218 / 0.57p
  • Wednesday 7th – 38,000 / £203 / 0.53p
  • Thursday 8th – 53,000 / £167 / 0.32p
  • Friday 9th – sold out / £137 / na
  • Saturday 10th – 64,000 / £190 / 0.30p
  • Sunday 11th – 34,000 / £179 / 0.53p
  • Monday 12th – 25,000 / £142 / 0.57p
  • Tuesday 13th – 27,000 / £157 / 0.58p
  • Wednesday 14th – 28,000 / £159 / 0.57p
  • Thursday 15th – 48,000 / £139 / 0.29p
  • Friday 16th – 57,000 / £134 / 0.24p
  • Saturday 17th – 64,000 / £151 / 0.24p
  • Sunday 18th – 49,000 / £116 / 0.24p
  • Monday 19th – 50,000 / £123 / 0.25p
  • Tuesday 20th – 25,000 / £135 / 0.54p
  • Wednesday 21st – 45,000 / £135 / 0.30p
  • Thursday 22nd – 44,000 / £117 / 0.27p
  • Friday 23rd – 50,000 / £139 / 0.28p
  • Saturday 24th – 54,000 / £155 / 0.29p
  • Sunday 25th – 42,000 / £106 / 0.25p
  • Monday 26th – 43,000 / £119 / 0.28p
  • Tuesday 27th – 25,000 / £134 / 0.53p
  • Wednesday 28th – 42,000 / £134 / 0.32p
  • Thursday 29th – 40,000 / £114 / 0.29p
  • Friday 30th – 47,000 / £123 / 0.26p
  • Saturday 31st – 61,000 / £147 / 0.24p

When you look at a list like this – for the same hotel – you see how crazy the new system is.

  • the points range runs from 25,000 points to 67,000 points
  • the cash range runs from £106 to £218

However, the cash price has very little relation to the points price.

The most expensive date – £218 – is one of the cheapest for points, needing just 38,000.

On another date, we have a room going for 61,000 points which is only £147 cash.

The ‘pence per point’ range runs from 0.24p to 0.58p.

Points pricing doesn’t seem to be totally random but it is not closely correlated to cash either. There appear to be clusters, where you get a run of 4-5 days of similar points pricing.

Between 12th – 15th July, for instance, the points cost is very low at 25k / 27k / 28k. However, the average cash price for those three days – around £150 – is higher than virtually every night in the 2nd half of the month.

What does this mean for you?

If you want to fully maximise the value of your IHG Rewards points, you may need to switch hotels each night. This is clear from the data above.

Unfortunately, IHG does not have a calendar on its website which shows you the cash and points price in the same format as I do above. This means that you would need to do lots of individual searches to see where the best value was.

For example, if you searched from 19th-21st July, the IHG website will show you a points price of 37,500 per night. What you can’t see easily is that one night is 25,000 points and the other is 50,000 points, which may impact your decision.

If IHG had decided to ‘do an Accor’ and announce that 1 point was worth exactly 0.4p, members would at least know where they stood. It would have destroyed the value in the programme (Accor Live Limitless does not exactly excite its members as there are no opportunities for outsize value) but at least you would have known where you were.

You are now in an even worse position, because you have no idea what your stay will cost. Fancy earning some points during May for a 5-star hotel in Boston in July? Good luck getting a firm idea of how many points you will need.

Imagine if Caffe Nero gave you one stamp per coffee you bought, but didn’t tell you how many you needed for a free coffee. You fill up a card with 15 stamps. Each day you need to walk into the shop and ask how many stamps are needed for a free coffee that day. The answer could be between 10 and 30 (roughly the range IHG is using) and bears no relation to the cost of a coffee. Would you put up with that? Would you even bother collecting the stamps on that basis?

Hilton got it right, IHG got it wrong

Hilton moved to a similar system a couple of years ago, but with a key difference.

Hilton has retained caps. They are not published, but regular users know that you will never pay more than a certain amount for a certain hotel. This has two advantages:

  • you know, in the worse case scenario, how many points you will need
  • you can get outsize value at peak times

The idea of linking points to cash rates is not totally stupid. When you put hotels in fixed price categories, there are some properties which never get any redemption business because they are so cheap for cash.

Under a flexible system, like the Hilton one, hotels which are cheap for cash are cheap for points. This helps spread out redemptions across a broader number of hotels.

IHG has done neither of these things:

  • there is no link between cash price and points price, so it won’t do anything to fill hotels with points guests at cheap periods
  • there is no cap on redemption pricing, so members have literally no idea how many points they will need

What makes even less sense, as I explained yesterday, is that the amount that IHG pays the hotel is fixed unless the hotel is full. This means that the dispersion in points pricing we see above has no logic to it.


IHG Rewards update – December 2021:

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Comments (97)

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  • Andrew says:

    It actually seems that prices have settled quite a bit since the initially ridiculous points prices the algorithm pushed out on 1 April and are now looking more reasonable from some same date searches I now perform. I think it’s similar to what happened last summer when dynamism was first rolled out and the points prices were ludicrously low and we all jumped on things like IC Singapore for 22k (of course only to subsequently need to cancel them due to the ongoing travel restrictions!) and again within a few days points prices were back up to a normal level.

  • planeconcorde says:

    I don’t think the algorithm is random. One observation is that Saturday is always the most expensive points rate for that week. Either the highest points or equal highest with another day that week.

  • AndyS says:

    I recon this is done like “advance purchase” train tickets or flight tickets, for example the first 5 rooms at 15000 points, the next 5 at 17500, next 5 at 20000 etc. Difficult to test of course, unless several of us book that one cheap day and see how quickly it goes up.

    • Graeme says:

      I had that theory as well, also like planeconcorde says, certain nights in certain hotels are more expensive. There must be some rationale behind it. Sold out in 2019, may mean higher redemption.

      Who is up for a small HfP experiment. I’ve booked HIX Edinburgh Leith Waterfront as far out as I can on the assumption that occupancy will be 0%. It’s cost me 25,000 points on the 24th-25th of March. Will prices increase as more redpemtion rooms are sold?

      • Guernsey Globetrotter says:

        I just booked as per your note above- also 25,000 points for the night and showed as ‘only 5 rooms left’ for a standard double before I clicked.

      • Dubious says:

        I’ve made a test booking to help with this – still showing 25,000 today.

        • Graeme says:

          Thanks guys. My theory wrong so far!!

          • Andrew says:

            Your theory might not be wrong. There are plenty of reasons why it might not work on this occasion though.

            Perhaps that hotel has opted out of the new system?

            Or maybe your expectations for AI influenced pricing on a legacy booking system are a bit high? The world still runs on overnight batch processing.

          • Dubious says:

            I also wonder if the dynamic pricing only kicks in within a certain time horizon? 2021 might be too far away to make daily adjustments.
            Will take another look at the pricing it give tomorrow.

          • Graeme says:

            That’s true Andrew, may not update until tomorrow, or once per 24 hours. I’m happy to hold mine until tomorrow to see if any changes if others are before cancelling.

    • Sam G says:

      This was my thought as well. They’re “revenue managing” the points nights in complete isolation to the cash pricing. So it should settle down as the data builds up

      Very strange way of thinking about it if they are !

  • Harry Holden says:

    To me, this is just one of a number of problems with IHG Rewards. The program is so weak relative to others, even at the top end of Spire Elite. I have lost count of the number of times I have been disappointed with the recognition beyond a “thank you” at reception and a glass of terrible wine. Now, make a cash stay into a reward stay and your status counts for nothing. Expect a room in the basement between the lift plant room and the boiler.

    IHG points are useful to stay in an Express on my own. I would not dream of using them at a higher grade property where I know I would be disappointed that living 1/4 of my (pre-Covid) life in their hotels counts for nothing.

    I must add that the Staybridge suites on Bath road have always upgraded me on a points stay, so my model is flawed.

    • Anna says:

      Ha – I was enquiring about booking a suite at the Voco Cardiff (which looks very nice!) and asked what they offered in terms of status recognition. The reply was a link to the IHG website page detailing the loyalty scheme!

      • Aston100 says:

        Please don’t Anna.
        I’ve heard it is the worst hotel in the world and will be really bad this summer.
        Please make sure you (and especially Harry T for that matter) don’t book there in August this year.
        Try and go to Gibraltar or the Shetlands perhaps?
        Thanks.

        • Anna says:

          Lol Aston, you’ll be glad to hear I went with Marriott for my UK plan C in early May! I bed suite at the St Pierre for £150 on.

  • Nick G says:

    I wonder if the points required such as each date in robs example will move again, or are they now fixed? Whatever the logic is behind the points required is another issue.

    • Aston100 says:

      The points and indeed cash requirement can and will change.

  • Venturelog says:

    So not an IT bug…?

  • Benilyn says:

    Struggling to find 2 days in a row at the lower rate for Indigo Bath, now mostly 39k !

  • Anna says:

    Maybe hotels will get fed up with processing large numbers of single night bookings (or combinations of cash and points bookings). Worth mentioning at check in, anyway!

    • Froggitt says:

      Or fed up of doing a deep clean every day for unmerged bookings.

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