The HfP chat thread – Saturday 6th February

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• Chris Heyes says:

  6 Feb6 February 07:09

  Well my partner went for her jab yesterday (vulnerable) in Bognor i went with her (i had a letter to book one, but kept coming up as Portsmouth or Brighton)
  So i went with the intent of crashing the system so to speak shamefully lol
  When i arrived i told them my intention (it’s our Health Centre)
  they said go up with her and “ask”
  Went up with her they said no problem we will add you to our list.
  We was in and out in ten min, done
  Don’t get me wrong would have gone to Brighton or Portsmouth (but would have meant 2nd Jab would have been there)
  So a few days wait to see if i could get in with partner was worth it
  i did know that ringing them up doesn’t work
  no side affects i should add

  • Gruntfuttock says:

    6 Feb6 February 07:24

    I’m a volunteer at a vaccination centre just along the coast from Bognor and a similar pragmatic approach has been taken there in these circumstances. In my experience it’s how you ask when accompanying another together with the number of available doses left. Don’t take the mickey though. Stay safe afterwards though 😷

  • The Hunter says:

    6 Feb6 February 07:35

    Great, but why are you posting this on this forum?

    • ChrisC says:

      6 Feb6 February 07:54

      Because as it says up top Rob says we can post about

      “anything else on your mind”

      And though at times that’s infuriating it can also be informative.

      • The Hunter says:

        6 Feb6 February 08:19

        Fair enough, I admit hadn’t read Rob’s revised blurb above

        • ChrisC says:

          6 Feb6 February 10:00

          It’e been the same blurb since he started these ‘chat’ threads getting on for a year ago!

      • Chris Heyes says:

        6 Feb6 February 11:25

        ChrisC “And though at times that’s infuriating it can also be informative.”
        Not as infuriating as hearing the same question’s and answers over beardy, bendy, seagulls, creation ect and one or two word answers lol

        • ChrisC says:

          6 Feb6 February 12:43

          Agree with you 100% there.

          As soon as Rob moves over to a forum the better and those posts can be isolated and moved so those of us that have no interest don’t have to plough through them!

        • Brian W says:

          6 Feb6 February 18:31

          Or as infuriating as ‘lol’ at the end of every sentence instead of a full stop. Put a tiny bit of effort into it Chris Heyes. You know what Lol stands for but for you its become a lay habit and it grates on many, other comments have alluded to the same opinion.

  • Red Flyer says:

    6 Feb6 February 08:26

    Not a good idea to be encouraging this type of behaviour as police warning of crowds gathering in evening at local centre here and will be issuing fines if required as people posting on social media they had the the same experience and jumping ahead of the queues I worth chancing their arm.

    • Anna says:

      6 Feb6 February 08:38

      I think Chris is well over 70 from what he’s said previously, so wasn’t jumping the queue – in my area (actually Chris’s place of origin!) they ‘ve been vaccinating over 70s for at least the past week, anyway.

      • Chris Heyes says:

        6 Feb6 February 11:20

        Hi, Anna 73, got my letter to have jab, just not giving me a near place when i checked online, (But did say could wait for a nearer place)
        Didn’t want to travel a bit away twice because 2nd jab would be same place as 1st.
        So cheekily thought I’d wait and ask when i went with partner
        Because I’m cheeky,
        AJA astrazeneca

        • BJ says:

          6 Feb6 February 11:55

          In that case I’ll prescribe you a Sainsbury’s Bank Over 50s Plan … 20k NP or 12.5k avios for 5 months x £5. Two per household per rolling year so you just cancel and repeat.

  • AJA says:

    6 Feb6 February 08:50

    Good for you Chris! 👍 Which vaccine did you get? My mum got the Pfizer one. I am hoping I will get the first jab relatively soon as I am over 50. There are loads of places around me doing the vaccinations. I discovered my local pharmacy is doing them when I went to collect a prescription yesterday.

    • Anna says:

      6 Feb6 February 09:03

      +1 – my parents had theirs a couple of weeks ago as over 70 and foster carers. Luckily I am all of 10 minutes by car from our local vaccine hub, though people have been coming from up to 45 minutes away which has obviously created difficulties for very elderly folk. There were reports of 90 year olds having to queue in the freezing cold for 2 hours at the start but they seem to have ironed that out now.

    • BJ says:

      6 Feb6 February 09:12

      My parents got the Oxford vaccinated at home as they are both housebound. Dad was fine, mum felt unwell and had fever for two days. Both my aunts were fine but friend of my mum reacted so badly she was admitted to hospital but she is fine already.

      • TGLoyalty says:

        6 Feb6 February 09:16

        I read yesterday severe reactions which is actually fever etc rather than a sore spot/arm is 2 in 100k which is very low.

        • kitten says:

          6 Feb6 February 09:35

          could be the more “irritating” version of vaccine used for over-65’s?

          do we get a choice of which vaccine?

        • BJ says:

          6 Feb6 February 09:41

          My relatives and mums friend in poor health too so that hat may make them more prone to adverse reactions.

        • ChrisC says:

          6 Feb6 February 10:07

          @ kitten – no.

          @ BJ – a sore arm or slight temperature is not an adverse reaction. In fact a slight temperature is a sign the body is reacting to the vaccine and making the antibodies. Proper medically significant adverse reactions are very rare with vaccines

        • Sandra B says:

          6 Feb6 February 10:19

          @kitten. No choice unless medical reasons. Our 80+ in Town Hall with AstraZeneca. 70+ now done and 65+ this week (that’s me) in local sports centre with Pfizer. My mum had no reaction but father-in-law did both with similar age related health. My daughter 40+, health related doctor will get AstraZeneca soon as she had allergic reaction to childhood ones so Pfizer not advised. That’s Scotland btw and gathering pace. Just for info.

        • BJ says:

          6 Feb6 February 10:21

          @Chris, it was more than a sore arm and a case of the chills, she wasn’t taken to hospital for that. I’m not disputing the stats or overplaying the side effects, just reporting what happened.

        • ChrisC says:

          6 Feb6 February 10:36

          BJ yes that does sound like an adverse reaction. Hope she’s feeling better soon.

          It’s just that many people think the normal reaction of the body to any vaccination is an adverse reaction when in the vast majority of cases it’s not.

          Think about it when you get a cold your temperature rises not because of the cold itself but because it’s the bodies reaction to the infection and making the antibodies to fight the cold.

          A vaccine is designed to prod the body to make the antibodies hence the raised temperature. And people confuse that reaction hence the ‘not having a flu vaccine again because it gave me the flu’ .

        • Radiata says:

          6 Feb6 February 11:24

          In a small department (NHS), perhaps a quarter of colleagues have felt rather ill post vaccine. This to the extent we are ensuring second shot staggered so as not to jeopardise staffing due to illness. Particularly affected are those who have had Covid previously.
          Symptoms run the gamut from extreme lethargy to migraine to myalgia and joint pain to fever and disorientation. 24-48 hours duration usually.
          Some Pfizer, some AstraZeneca.
          This a cohort of mainly young and all active adults working in a front line setting but a screen of all for antibodies a little while ago showed only about 5% positive so most Covid naive.

        • Darren S says:

          6 Feb6 February 12:13

          I am due to get first jab next week. I have already downloaded the MHRA yellow card app, so that any reaction I get can be recorded, collated and studied in a meaningful way, rather than just comments on a blog.

        • kitten says:

          6 Feb6 February 13:57

          what do people think about the Germans and the French claiming the AZ is ineffective past a certain age?

        • Lyn says:

          6 Feb6 February 21:00

          Kitten, I don’t think they are claiming it is ineffective after a certain age, just that there isn’t enough trial data for that age group yet and they are being cautious.

    • Jonathan says:

      6 Feb6 February 13:02

      Myalgia (muscle aches) feeling feverish although no significant temperature rise (70’s though which reflects the generally less responsive immune system as you age.

      Fortunately the antibody & T cell responses at 28 days were the same in all groups so this doesn’t hinder the effectiveness of the vaccine.

      There is no different version of the vaccine for older patients with adjuncts to stimulate a greater immune response unlike the seasonal flu vaccine as they’re not felt to be necessary with the viral vector or mRNA vaccines.

      • Jonathan says:

        6 Feb6 February 13:38

        For some reason part of my message didn’t survive.

        After temperature rise insert:

        (<38oC), headache & fatigue collectively referred to as systemic side effects rather than local (sore arm) were very common in the 70s)

        • Jonathan says:

          6 Feb6 February 13:39

          It’s chopping stuff out again, no idea why!

      • kitten says:

        6 Feb6 February 13:59

        ok….was a bit curious Jonathan as for flu vaccine is that another form of coronavirus? my local pharmacy said they administer a different version over 65

        • kitten says:

          6 Feb6 February 14:03

          ok… seen the rest of your reply Jonathan – thank you

        • BJ says:

          6 Feb6 February 17:25

          @Kitten, they might have lost it in translation or mischief (take your pick) but I think they were not saying that it was inneffe, tive, rather that there was insufficient volunteers 65+ in the trial to provide sufficient confidence it was. Not certain but I think I read the relevant authority in the USA disagreed.

  • Tracey says:

    6 Feb6 February 12:31

    I’m a volunteer and have worked at a few vaccine centres. The mass vaccination centres are more likely to have spare vaccines and be able to accommodate the eligible. The GP led centres (that may be hubs rather than in surgeries) often have every single vaccine allocated and a wait list from the surgeries, so your chances of being accommodated are slimmer. The pharmacies that have joined the programme are variable, some have so few booked appointments that they have started advertising on Facebook that they have spare for anyone eligible.
    Note, if you are not in an eligible group, the only way you could get a vaccine is a combination of a Sunday evening when most practises are closed, snowy weather so people aren’t turning up to appointments, Pfizer vaccines that have already been taken out of the freezer and a fair wind! Or some such similar combination.

    • Gruntfuttock says:

      6 Feb6 February 14:39

      Further to my (much) earlier comment those getting vaccinated in addition to the list of invited attendees were carers accompanying the clinically vulnerable and partners of those who were in the same age group but had not yet received an invitation. As I said, the medical staff adopted a pragmatic approach to these which was heartening to witness.

    • Stephen says:

      6 Feb6 February 21:33

      It wasnt the lack of over 65s in the trial thats the problem. Its that only 2 of them got covid so they couldnt show over 65s with vaccine did better than placebo. Seems daft to me. Surely given efficacy for everyone else you would assume it works rather than doesnt for over 65s.

  • Harry T says:

    6 Feb6 February 17:48

    I’ve had one shot of the Pfizer vaccine and felt absolutely fine apart from a sore deltoid for two or three days (this happens after every jab IME, including influenza). I honestly think, aside from the genuinely serious reactions, a lot of “side effects” are chiefly the nocebo effect in people who expect to feel under the weather.

    • Crafty says:

      6 Feb6 February 21:47

      Friend is a GP, she’s done hundreds of these and hears back about the after effects, insists Oxford/AZ has a far higher rate of people getting ill.

• BJ says:

  6 Feb6 February 07:22

  Despite all the misery and frustration of cancellations and refunds etc, our hobby continues to be pleasant and rewarding. Spent an enjoyable couple of hours last night putting together a 14 night road trip starting out at Staybridge Newcastle, reaching as far out as HIX Bodmin and ending at HI Dumfries. 11 different hotels; 6 Hilton group and 5 IHG group. Didn’t calculate it exactly but close enough at
  107,000 IHG points and 86,000 Hilton points so 193,000 in total. There was also some cash paid, roughly £150. Taking some liberties with smoothing and averages, that’s just under 14,000 points and £11 per night for flexible stays although net cost will be less due to Hilton Diamond MyWay points etx. Now just have to hope we don’t need to exercise that flexibility. Burning points also helps motivate you to earn some more to replace them, quite a good result in itself when I found my enthusiasm waning from so many points.

  • mradey says:

    6 Feb6 February 07:35

    Nice! Enjoy your trip.

    • BJ says:

      6 Feb6 February 08:28

      Thanks, we’ll do our best 🙂

  • Wally1976 says:

    6 Feb6 February 07:54

    Sounds good, I’d be interested to hear the places you’re visiting. We all love to travel abroad but there’s so much to see in this country too.

    • BJ says:

      6 Feb6 February 08:48

      During the last three years we abandoned short trips in Europe in favour of getting to know the UK better and have no regrets. Trips have been great and the people too. Since indyref in 14 and Brexit in 16 the media has been relentless about the country being divided. Not my experience on the ground, people are welcoming and friendly and they tend not to let their politics affect that.

      This time it is Edinburgh – Newcastle – Sheffield – Windsor – Brighton – Southampton – Exeter – Bodmin – Cheltenham – Preston – Dumfries – Edinburgh. Idea is to get on the A and B class roads and keep driving to less than 4h/day to allow ample stops. Hotels are a mixed bag, nothing grand as you would expect from rates quoted but hopefully all are clean and comfortable. Don’r really get excited by luxury hotels, just use them as a place to sleep, so hopefully it works out ok.

      • TGLoyalty says:

        6 Feb6 February 09:17

        I hope sturgeon let’s you leave Scotland this year.

        • BJ says:

          6 Feb6 February 10:23

          One of the reasons why there is a lot of “hopefully” in my comments these days…

        • TGLoyalty says:

          6 Feb6 February 12:02

          Plan B if it’s Scotland only?

        • Andrew says:

          6 Feb6 February 17:24

          No guards when I crossed the border this morning

        • BJ says:

          6 Feb6 February 17:45

          @TGLoyalty, an B is run to the hills.

          @Andrew, something on that in the Telegraph Scottish edition today, probably just the usual press political mischief.

      • Tony says:

        6 Feb6 February 13:39

        When in Windsor – and if open – pop into the Accor McGallery for afternoon tea. Best in the area, and good value ( car park is way OTT though ). Hotel not worth the effort of staying in though. Enjoy

        • kitten says:

          6 Feb6 February 14:37

          Is the McGallery the old Castle Hotel? I might make a point of popping in. We used to have Tango lessons there with Harry Smith-Hampshire.

          IIRC if that’s the hotel then parking nearby in the afternoon would be difficult?

        • BJ says:

          6 Feb6 February 17:48

          Thanks Tony, noted. Might fit the bill nicely after drive down from Sheffield.

        • Tony says:

          6 Feb6 February 20:47

          Yes, Castle hotel. Parking is cramped and expensive. Last time we stayed hotel needed a refurb, and some receptionist who could be bothered to check us in ….. 3h wait ! ( did get comp though – but still 3h in the reception waiting for a room despite booked 6 weeks before – it will be ready in 10 min routine … for 3 hours … if known would have done other things with the wasted time. Afternoon tea good though – its where Sir Cap Tom went – Mother In Law often gets confused for some minor old royal by passing Chinese tourists in window – funny first time …. YMMV )

  • memesweeper says:

    6 Feb6 February 08:05

    I’ve did something similar a few weeks ago, and now the penny has dropped with the family that the usual foreign jaunts might be off the agenda, revealed plan B yesterday. They’re delighted 🙂

    • BJ says:

      6 Feb6 February 08:59

      Hope it works well,. They might find, like my partner, they actually enjoy staying close to home. There is so much to see and do, we just need to look.

  • Anna says:

    6 Feb6 February 08:41

    That sounds an excellent road trip, BJ, are there any specific sites/places you’re planning to visit?

    • BJ says:

      6 Feb6 February 08:55

      Details now posted above. Only been to Cornwall once so motivation is to explore more. Two nights in Southampton will give us a day in tve Bew Forest, schedule allows for some drives through the Cotswolds, Peak District and the Lakes too. First and last lehs we will ho through the Scottish Borders.

      • Anna says:

        6 Feb6 February 08:59

        Fab – I’m dying to book a trip to Scotland (I’m assuming our silver wedding trip in March won’t be happening!), but it’s far from clear when we’ll be allowed back!

        • BJ says:

          6 Feb6 February 09:22

          Looking good at tge moment. Only one of our 32 local authorities have over 200 cases/100k and it’ll probably go below today. More than half are already less than 100 and Edinburgh and Aberdeen are about 65 IIRC . Test positivity has been 4.9% for the last two days and R number is 0 7-0.9 for the country. Younger school children are likely starting back this month hopefully as we emerge from lockdown this time the vaccibe will make picture look very different. I am feeling optimistic but not booking any overseas travel before my trip in December.

        • Sandra says:

          6 Feb6 February 12:27

          Anna, We go to Scotland every year as our best friends are Scottish. We always try and do a trip to a different area from their home for a couple of days with them and are gradually working our way around the islands too. Orkney is well worth the long journey and so is Mull but it’s all beautiful (if you ignore the midges and sometimes changeable weather!). However due to Covid, having at last secured a week in a cottage in the grounds of a well known Royal castle in the Highlands for Spring last year we aren’t having much luck with that. It was cancelled last year, rebooked for the same week this year and I think it most likely will be 3rd time lucky and we will hopefully get there in 2022 by which time we’ll be celebrating 4 significant birthdays rather then just the original 1!

        • Anna says:

          6 Feb6 February 14:46

          Sandra, yes in normal times we try to go at least every other year as we love it and OH has family in Perthshire. A cottage in castle grounds sounds delightful. I’ve been trying to visit the IC and both Kimptons for nearly 12 months with no joy! We’ll be celebrating 2 50ths, 2 retirements and a silver wedding by this time next year lol!

        • BJ says:

          6 Feb6 February 18:01

          @Sandra, try smidge which you can get from amazon. The changeable weather is just like the rest of the UK. It mostly affects the West Coast and the higher land. Obviously the further North you come generally the colder it gets. A geographical pity as some of the most amazing beaches are on the far North West Coast and islands. The further East you go the more settled the weather becomes and if you check the stats versus the myths you’ll find Edinburgh and Dundee amongst the driest places in the UK.

      • Michael C says:

        6 Feb6 February 09:42

        It’ll be fabulous, BJ. Not BKK, but fabulous!
        We go to Cornwall/Devon every summer. and it’s always one of our favourite trips. I love how, even in the middle of summer, you can still find gorgeous vast empty spaces/coastline.
        Btw, I see Bodmin jail has just been revamped!

        • BJ says:

          6 Feb6 February 10:29

          Thanks Michael, hopefully (that word again!) BKK will be on for December too. We pushed road trip into September, if covid or weather interferes we’ll push it back to May or June 22. Hope you get to make your annual trip this year too.

        • Sandra says:

          6 Feb6 February 19:31

          @BJ, thanks will try Smidge, not heard of it. Yes knew it’s always drier/colder on east coast. My friend is originally from Thurso but brought up in Glasgow so Edinburgh on a day trip is her limit at a push – the old Glasgow/Edinburgh rivalry 😂 but I love Edinburgh. Wouldn’t mind going to Dundee again now the V & A opened. Our daughter in 2nd year at Glasgow uni & we were hoping to spend a lot more time up there but at the moment she is home and since mid Dec we’ve been paying rent on an empty flat, c’est la vie!

  • Chrisasaurus says:

    6 Feb6 February 10:18

    It’s a wonderful pastime, putting together trips like that – and can be anywhere too – asking it around sights you want to visit etc definitely strikes a chord with something in my mind

    What time of year have you planned it for? I’m looking at doing a similar thing down the uk and through France but undecided whether to do October 21 or wait for spring 22

    • BJ says:

      6 Feb6 February 10:34

      September to avoid the worst of crowds. I think if we just accept that trips might not happen there is still a lot to be said for planing them anyway. Good for the mental health, something to look forward to.

      • Chrisasaurus says:

        6 Feb6 February 11:26

        And on top of that, once you have the structure you can lift and shift the whole trip by x months by rebooking hotels one after another and just changing the month!

        Very exciting, hope you get to go while we have a bit of sun

  • Harry T says:

    6 Feb6 February 17:50

    @BJ you going to come and say hi when you’re in Newcastle? Btw the Holiday Inn Jesmond is actually quite nice, I stayed there once during a 4x promotion before heading to the Amstel.

    • BJ says:

      6 Feb6 February 18:11

      Do I need to have an accident first? Spoiled for choice with value hotels in Newcastle. We’ve picked Staybridge last couple of times because we can park and breakfast is included. I also like Staybridge because if weather turns nasty or I simply don’t want to go out again I can pop something in the microwave. Looks like Hilton Gateshead may be in trouble, not even taking bookings for September/October.

      • Genghis says:

        6 Feb6 February 18:48

        We stayed at the Staybridge last year. Was impressed and would stay there again. Newkie brew x 2 and some “ket” from the tuck shop for Spire Elite. V quick walk down to the quayside but a slog coming back up!

      • Harry T says:

        7 Feb7 February 02:02

        Nah, I can do call outs! Sounds like Staybridge is a great choice, I note the positive reviews. I hope the Hilton survives, we don’t have a wealth of hotels here. Restrictions have been in place for a long time, so hotels must all be struggling.

• Donna says:

  6 Feb6 February 08:15

  I have linked my avios and nectar account, transferred 1,600 to avios but I am yet to receive double nectar points on my shopping. Any experiences on this?

  • Rich says:

    6 Feb6 February 08:26

    I think you can expect then at the end of the promotion

  • ChrisC says:

    6 Feb6 February 08:39

    If you had read either the T&Cs or the HfP articles about the bonus they make it clear they are applied at the end of the promotion period.

• Steve R says:

  6 Feb6 February 08:16

  We are hoping to go to Dalaman in August, with our 14 year old daughter.
  Does anyone know of a good hotel search website that has a filter for two bedooms / connecting room?.

  • Anna says:

    6 Feb6 February 09:06

    This can be quite tricky. I generally just book 2 rooms then contact the hotel and ask for them to be adjacent or opposite each other. I’ve never had an issue with this, though I know Rob has posted in the past about being promised interconnecting rooms for younger children and not getting them.

    • Steve R says:

      6 Feb6 February 09:33

      Wife wants certainty that our daughter will be within 10 feet of us

      • kitten says:

        6 Feb6 February 09:42

        For that I’d want a suite or something with a sofabed in a more or less separate living area both accessed from corridor with same door.

        14 year old female teenager is on the cusp of needing to take care as a child

        • Anna says:

          6 Feb6 February 11:17

          Good idea on a suite. You often find that for less than the cost of 2 rooms you can get a suite with a separate living room with a sofa bed and/or rollaway, which means everyone can have privacy but children are within hailing distance. I don’t know how likely you are to find suites in resort hotels, but a lot of them have one or two bedroom apartments which are ideal for families.

        • Brian W says:

          6 Feb6 February 21:46

          Bold statement regarding 14 year old girls Lady London. There are many reasons a 14 year old (male or female) many not be encouraged or able to realistically stay in their own hotel room independently for a parent.

          How many kids do you have that allow you to comment on this with experience?

        • Rob says:

          7 Feb7 February 11:09

          My daughter had a room on her own at 10-11 I think. She had effectively spent about 300 nights of her life in hotels by this point though.

        • Brian W says:

          7 Feb7 February 13:29

          My eldest is 13 and has stayed in her own non adjoining room too as many young adults will be confident enough to do at that stage, some may not be able to though, learning difficulties may be one of several reasons for example and the OP doesn’t elude to the reason why, hence it being a bold statement that doesn’t need to be made or have any relevance to the help the OP was asking for.

      • Chrisasaurus says:

        6 Feb6 February 11:24

        Just my experience but anything less than a suite is a gamble as to what you’ll actually get (Two challenging experiences at IC park lane for example where you might imagine better attention to detail, though to balance one excellent experience at ICs o2) and with connecting rooms, you’re still likely sleeping one parent per room.

        With traditional connecting rooms do you lock the second room external door from the inside so the only access is the one into your room? You need to be certain connecting door won’t close, or be closed if so, that’s from experience too!

        It’s a cultural thing I think but Sofitel have very sensible configs in their suites I’ve found in several properties but for me this is a classic case of pay for exactly what you want and just accept the cost in return for peace of mind both before and during your trip

• Pete M says:

  6 Feb6 February 08:31

  Morning all! I posted about a week ago about signing up to Curve (a week previous, so 2 weeks ago now) and nothing working. The card never arrived, I can’t add the virtual card to Apple Pay nor use it online. I’ve messaged them and called, but they are completely unresponsive… A few others had the same problem – has anyone managed to sort it?

  • Anna says:

    6 Feb6 February 08:43

    Not for this specifically, but I did send them a message recently about a technical issue. In the event I resolved it via this site but Curve got back to me about a week later so it might just be a case of waiting a bit longer.

  • Sina says:

    6 Feb6 February 14:44

    They’ve added live chat in-app, try using that?

    • Pete says:

      6 Feb6 February 14:57

      Where are you seeing that, Sina? In the tickets bit?

• PM says:

  6 Feb6 February 08:46

  This is Curve for you.

  They make money from investors not customers, hence pretty much do not care about them.

• Anna says:

  6 Feb6 February 08:55

  Crikey, let’s hope this lot aren’t in charge of security at the quarantine hotels 😲

  https://www.kentonline.co.uk/thanet/news/manston-uncovered-sex-drugs-and-fake-covid-tests-242031/

  • Chrisasaurus says:

    6 Feb6 February 11:28

    Interesting take; I was thinking just the opposite 😀

• George K says:

  6 Feb6 February 09:30

  With the Bonvoy bonus nights posted and the double nights/ENCs promo starting, my original aim was to do another 5 nights to reach Platinum for another year (having got 40 in the bag).

  However, would it make more sense to aim for Titanium at 17 nights (or just 12 if I take 5 nights as Platinum bonus?) in order to ensure Titanium for 2022, and a guaranteed soft landing to Platinum in 2023?

  Is my reasoning correct?

  • Kai says:

    6 Feb6 February 10:41

    There’s no soft landing anymore.

    • George K says:

      6 Feb6 February 13:26

      Thanks for the heads up. No reason to go after Titanium then.

    • Pangolin says:

      6 Feb6 February 16:32

      They’ll give you a soft landing if you ask nicely.

      Getting Titanium will give you a free night award (40K) and higher earnings. YMMV but personally I think it’s worth it.

  • Blair says:

    6 Feb6 February 18:38

    Worth it for such a marginal outlay. A further devaluation of tiers could come quickly post-lockdown (if that ever happens). And you want to put yourself ahead of the queue of newly minted Plats for upgrades.

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