Maximise your Avios, air miles and hotel points

When is it worth paying an annual fee for a miles and points credit card?

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I get numerous emails from Head for Points readers asking for advice on which miles and points credit card they should get.  These often come with the caveat “but I don’t want to pay a fee for a card”.

I don’t agree with this approach.  Let me explain why.

Most credit cards in the UK do not carry an annual fee.  It is very likely, before you became interested in miles and points, that you had never paid a fee for a credit card in your life.

UK Rewards credit and charge cards

I can see why you wouldn’t want to. 

You know that the card company gets a cut from the retailer every time you buy something.  You know that they add a 3% foreign exchange fee whenever you spend abroad, and whenever you end up withdrawing some cash on it (which, however much you try to avoid it, always happens once or twice a year).  You may accidentally miss a payment date occasionally and run up some interest.

Paying for the privilege of generating this revenue for the credit card company seems wrong.

I think you need to look at it differently.  Forget that you are paying for a credit card.  Look at it as simply paying for the benefits offered.

Taking the British Airways Premium Plus card as an example

Some people take one look at the £195 annual fee on the British Airways American Express Premium Plus credit card and are put off instantly.

Purely from the point of view of the sign-up bonus, being put off by the fee is a mistake.  The card is currently offering 25,000 Avios for signing up when you spend £3,000 within 90 days.  The majority of Head for Points readers would jump at the chance of buying 25,000 Avios for £195 which is basically what you are doing.

The fee becomes even more realistic when you look at the 2-4-1 voucher:

Would you pay £195 to buy a voucher which allowed you to get two Avios redemptions (BA planes only) for the miles of one?  This would save you 180,000 Avios on two Club World tickets to Tokyo for example.

This is clearly a ‘no brainer’ for anyone who understands the value of Avios.  180,000 Avios are worth at least £1,800 if used sensibly.  More importantly, if you wouldn’t otherwise be able to earn enough Avios for two Club World tickets to Tokyo, it lets you undertake a trip that would otherwise be impossible.

You need to spend £10,000 to trigger the voucher each year, of course, but you need to channel your credit card spend somewhere anyway.  The £195 fee also lets you earn 50% more Avios on every purchase – 1.5 per £1 – compared to the free British Airways American Express card and you get a 2-4-1 voucher valid for two years rather than one year.

Virgin Atlantic credit cards

And some other examples …..

Here are some other examples where, if you treat the fee as paying for a benefits package, it makes sense:

Would you pay £160 per year for the right to upgrade two Virgin Atlantic economy redemptions to premium economy, or from premium economy to Upper Class, or to get a 2-4-1 voucher on economy or premium economy redemptions?  Especially if you also got 15,000 Virgin Flying Club miles in the first year for signing up?

When you put it like that, the Virgin Reward+ Mastercard looks good value (you need to spend £10,000 to trigger the two vouchers).  That’s before you factor in the excellent ‘1.5 miles per £1’ earning rate.

Would you pay £575 per year to get travel insurance for your family and five other nominated people under 70 years old, car hire insurance, Hilton Gold, Marriott Gold, Radisson Rewards Gold, Melia Gold, Eurostar lounge access, Delta lounge access, two Priority Pass cards each admitting two people for free to 1000 airport lounges, and exclusive benefits at luxury hotels including guaranteed 4pm check-out?  Especially if you got 30,000 Avios or other miles in your first year?

This is clearly more of a ‘heavy hitters’ package, but the American Express Platinum charge card will give you all of the above.

American Express Amex Platinum card

Not all credit cards justify their fee …..

I don’t want to suggest that all fee-bearing miles and points cards justify the annual fee.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold is harder to justify after the free first year.  You are paying £140 from year 2, with the main benefit being two free airport lounge passes.  It might work if you spend £15,000 to trigger the annual bonus of 10,000 Membership Rewards Points, but I would consider it marginal.

The Lufthansa Miles & More card has a £79 fee – although you currently cannot apply until Summer 2021.  For the first year it is worth it for the 5,000 miles sign-up bonus.  After that, even the strong earning rate of 1.25 miles per £1 doesn’t justify the fee unless you are spending probably £15,000+ per year.  For many people the only reason for paying £79 is that having this card, and using it once per month, stops your Miles & More miles expiring.  It is a painful fee to keep your miles alive.

The Marriott Bonvoy American Express card has a £75 fee.  Similarly, for the first year it is worth it for the 20,000 Marriott Bonvoy points sign-up bonus.  Earning just 2 Marriott Bonvoy points per £1, you need to a big spender to justify £75 for Year 2+.  The real value here is the 15 elite night credits you get each year – most people treat it as a cheap way of getting a head start on status renewal.

These three examples show that not all fee-based cards necessarily offer long-term value.  However, if you can get your head around the concept of paying an annual fee, you will find that many miles and points card do offer value for money.

Mariott Bonvoy American Express credit card

Learn more about the credit cards mentioned above

Here is the legally required interest rate information on the credit cards mentioned above, together with links to our detailed reviews:

Nectar American Express

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Bonus: 20,000 points

Read our full review

Other information:

  • Amex Gold is our recommended ‘first card’ for a miles and points beginner
  • Get two free airport lounge passes when you sign up, and a further two each year
  • After your two free passes, you can visit further lounges for a small fee
  • You receive £120 of Deliveroo credit each year (24 x £5 credits)
  • Annual fee: Free for the first year, £140 from Year 2

Representative 59.9% APR variable.  Annual fee applies after the first year.

See if you qualify for the 20,000 points sign-up bonus +

You will receive 20,000 American Express Membership Rewards points as a sign-up bonus on the American Express Preferred Rewards Gold card if you spend £3,000 within 90 days of signing up.

Membership Rewards points are hugely flexible, which is why we recommend this as the best choice for your first miles and points card.  You can transfer them into Avios, Virgin Flying Club or other airlines (at 1:1) or into various hotels schemes, into Club Eurostar or use them for shopping vouchers.

To qualify for the bonus, you must NOT, currently or in the previous 24 months, have held any other personal American Express card.

You are OK if you had a supplementary card on someone else’s American Express account.

You are OK if, currently or in the previous 24 months, you have held a Business American Express card.

For clarity, you can still apply for the American Express Preferred Rewards Gold card even if you do not qualify for the bonus.  You would still benefit from the two free airport lounge passes and the ‘no fee in Year 1’ offer.

Learn more about the card benefits +

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold comes with two free airport lounge passes.  These allow either you and a friend, or yourself twice, to visit any lounge in the Priority Pass network.  You make additional lounge visits for £20 per person.  You receive an additional two free passes each year.

You earn double Membership Rewards points on all airline spend (made directly on an airline website) and all spend made outside the UK.

If you spend over £15,000 in a card year, you will receive an additional 10,000 Membership Rewards points when you renew.

Starting in May 2021, you receive £120 of Deliveroo credit each year.  Amex will repay you £5 for the first two Deliveroo orders charged to your Gold card each month.

Other benefits include a 10% discount on Hertz car rentals and special deals at 350 selected hotels worldwide, where Preferred Rewards Gold cardholders receive a $75 in-hotel credit per stay.

American Express Platinum card Amex

The Platinum Card from American Express

Bonus: 30,000 points

Read our full review

Other information:

  • Two Priority Pass cards, each allowing two people into 1,300 airport lounges
  • Elite status in four major hotel loyalty programmes
  • Comprehensive travel insurance
  • Annual fee: £575

This is a charge card, not a credit card. You must clear your balance in full each month.  Annual fee £575.

See if you qualify for the 30,000 points sign-up bonus +

You will receive 30,000 American Express Membership Rewards points as a sign-up bonus on The Platinum Card if you spend £4,000 within three months of signing up.

Membership Rewards points are hugely flexible.  You can transfer them into Avios, Virgin Flying Club or other airlines (at 1:1) or into various hotels schemes, into Club Eurostar or use them for shopping vouchers.

This is the ONLY personal American Express card where you still qualify for the bonus if you already hold a British Airways American Express card.

To qualify for the bonus, you must NOT, currently or in the previous 24 months, have held any other personal American Express card which earns Membership Rewards points.  This includes The Platinum Card and Preferred Rewards Gold.

You are OK if you had a supplementary card on someone else’s American Express account.

You are OK if, currently or in the previous 24 months, you have held any other American Express card, including the British Airways, Marriott and Nectar cards.

If you cancel The Platinum Card at any point, you will receive a pro-rata refund of your membership fee.  You will not lose your sign-up bonus.

For clarity, you can still apply for The Platinum Card even if you do not qualify for the bonus.  You would still benefit from the long list of other benefits.

Learn more about the card benefits +

The Platinum Card from American Express comes with an unrivalled list of benefits for the keen traveller.

Your personal travel patterns will determine which of these is the most valuable.  The key benefits are:

Full comprehensive travel insurance for you, your family and the family of up to five supplementary cardholders, subject to enrolment

Two Priority Pass cards, each of which allows the holder and a guest unlimited free access to 1,300 airport lounges

Elite status in four major hotel loyalty schemes: Marriott Bonvoy (Gold), Hilton Honors (Gold), Radisson Rewards (Gold), MeliaRewards (Gold)

Access to Eurostar lounges, irrespective of travel class

£10 per month of Addison Lee taxi credit

British Airways BA Premium Plus American Express Amex credit card

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

Bonus: 25,000 Avios

Read our full review

Other information:

  • Receive a companion voucher, letting you book two flights for the Avios of one, when you spend £10,000 in a card year
  • The voucher is valid for flights in any cabin
  • Annual fee: £250

Representative 101.1% APR variable based on an assumed £1,200 credit limit and £250 annual fee. Interest rate on purchases 24.5% APR variable.

See if you qualify for the 25,000 Avios sign-up bonus +

You will receive 25,000 Avios as a sign-up bonus on the British Airways American Express Premium Plus card if you spend £3,000 within 90 days of signing up.

To qualify for the bonus, you must not have held the British Airways Premium Plus or the free British Airways American Express cards in the previous 24 months.

You are OK if you had a supplementary card on someone else’s British Airways American Express account.

You are OK if, currently or in the previous 24 months, you have held any other American Express card.

For clarity, you can still apply for the British Airways Premium Plus card even if you do not qualify for the bonus.  You would still benefit from the companion voucher and all of the other card benefits.

Learn more about the card benefits +

When you spend £10,000 on the British Airways American Express Premium Plus card, you receive a companion voucher entitling you to book two Avios redemption flights for the miles of one.  This voucher is valid for two years.  (Full taxes and charges need to be paid on both tickets.)

This voucher is the most valuable perk available in the UK airline and hotel credit card sector in my view. It could save you 150,000 or more Avios when used for a long-haul redemption in a premium cabin.

The voucher with the Premium Plus card is far more powerful than the voucher given with the free British Airways American Express card.  You only need to spend £10,000, instead of £20,000, in a card year to receive it.  More importantly, the Premium Plus voucher is valid for two years and is valid in ALL cabins.  The voucher on the free British Airways American Express card is only valid for one year and can only be used for Economy flights.

You receive your voucher within a few days of reaching the spending target.  You need to fly the outbound leg of your 2-4-1 flight before the expiry date of the voucher.

Virgin Rewards Plus credit card

Virgin Atlantic Reward+ Mastercard

Bonus: 15,000 points

Read our full review

Other information:

  • Get a ‘2 for 1’ voucher, valid on cash or points tickets, when you spend £10,000 in a year
  • Alternatively, claim an upgrade voucher or Clubhouse lounge passes
  • Get free access to Virgin Money lounges across the UK
  • Annual fee: £160

Representative 63.9% APR variable based on an assumed £1,200 credit limit and £160 annual fee.  Interest rate on purchases 22.9% APR variable.

See if you qualify for the 15,000 points sign-up bonus +

You receive a bonus of 15,000 Virgin Points with your first purchase.

There are no restrictions on earning the bonus if you are accepted.  However, you cannot apply for a card if you currently have, or in the previous six months have had, a Virgin Atlantic credit card.

Learn more about the card benefits +

All Virgin Atlantic credit card holders receive free access to Virgin Money lounges across the UK.

When you spend £10,000 per year on the Virgin Atlantic Reward+ Mastercard, you can choose a benefit.  This is what you can pick from:

A 2-4-1 voucher, valid for two years, for a Virgin Atlantic cash flight or Virgin Flying Club redemption, in Upper Class, Premium or Economy

A return upgrade – on either a cash or points ticket – from Premium to Upper Class, or from Economy Delight/Classic to Premium.  You can either upgrade 1 x return flight if travelling alone or 2 x one-way legs of two return flights if travelling with someone else.

A Virgin Clubhouse lounge pass (requires a same-day Virgin Atlantic, Delta, KLM or Air France flight)

Here’s the small print:

If you are a Red (no status) member, you need to pay 50% of the points for your 2nd ticket if you redeem your 2-4-1 voucher in Upper Class.  This means that, for Upper Class redemptions for Red members, it is effectively a ‘2 for 1.5’ voucher. For Economy or Premium redemptions, it is a genuine ‘2 for 1’.

If you are a Gold member, you would receive two Clubhouse lounge passes instead on one if you chose that option

Taxes and charges need to be paid on the ‘free’ ticket as part of your 2-4-1 booking

Vouchers are valid for two years and you must fly the outbound leg of your trip before the expiry date

American Express Marriott Bonvoy credit card

Marriott Bonvoy American Express

Bonus: 20,000 points

Read our full review

Other information:

  • 15 elite night credits per year to help you towards higher status
  • Free night, up to 25,000 points, when you spend £25,000 per year.
  • Upgrade to Gold Elite status when you spend £15,000 in a card year
  • Annual fee: £75

Representative 41.6% APR variable based on an assumed £1,200 credit limit and £75 annual fee. Interest rate on purchases 24.5% APR variable.

See if you qualify for the 20,000 points sign-up bonus +

You will receive 20,000 points as a sign-up bonus on the Marriott Bonvoy American Express card if you spend £3,000 within 90 days of signing up.

To qualify for the bonus, you must NOT, currently or in the previous 24 months, have held any other personal American Express card.

You are OK if you had a supplementary card on someone else’s American Express account.

You are OK if, currently or in the previous 24 months, you have held a Business American Express card.

For clarity, you can still apply for the Marriott Bonvoy American Express card even if you do not qualify for the bonus.  You would still benefit from the 15 elite night credits per year, the free night (up to 25,000 points) for spending £25,000 and Gold Elite status for spending £15,000.

Learn more about the card benefits +

You will receive 15 elite night credits per year in Marriott Bonvoy.  The first batch will arrive within 60 days on applying and then in Spring in each subsequent year.

15 elite nights will automatically get you Silver Elite status in Marriott Bonvoy and put you nearer to Gold Elite and higher tiers.

If you spend £15,000 per card year, you will be upgraded to Gold Elite status in Marriott Bonvoy.

If you spend £25,000 per card year, you will receive a free night voucher, valid at any hotel where reward nights cost up to 25,000 points.


Want to earn more points from credit cards? – December 2021 update

If you are looking to apply for a new credit or charge card, here are our November 2021 recommendations based on the current sign-up bonus

You can see our full directory of all UK cards which earn airline or hotel points here. Here are the top current deals:

British Airways BA Amex American Express card

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up, no annual fee and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending ….. Read our full review

British Airways BA Premium Plus American Express Amex credit card

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the UK’s most valuable credit card perk – the 2-4-1 companion voucher Read our full review

Nectar American Express

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & two airport lounge passes Read our full review

American Express Platinum card Amex

The Platinum Card from American Express

30,000 points and an unbeatable set of travel benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Earning miles and points from small business cards

If you are a sole trader or run a small company, you may also want to check out these offers.

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and free for a year Read our full review

Amex Platinum Business American Express

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and a long list of travel benefits Read our full review

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express card

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

Capital On Tap Business Rewards Visa

The most generous Avios Visa or Mastercard for a limited company Read our full review

For a non-American Express option, we also recommend the Barclaycard Select Cashback card for sole traders and small businesses. It is FREE and you receive 1% cashback on your spending:

Barclaycard Select Cashback Credit Card

1% cashback and no annual fee Read our full review

Comments (94)

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  • Dev says:

    Personally, the £75 fee for the Marriott Bonvoy is a cheap way to earn flexible points for a variety of airlines. Yes the rate has dropped slightly (from 3 points per £1 spent to only 2 points now) but that is offset by the 15 nights status credit.

    • Ken says:

      Dropped slightly?

      I thought you got 15 nights credit in days when it was 3 points per £1

      Killed the card for me.

      • Dev says:

        Still a best of a bad bunch when collecting non-Avios / non-Virgin points. And much cheaper than the Amex platinum card!

        • Dev says:

          Which I am focusing on as I have moved from the UK on a short term basis. It’s SkyTeam for the next few years but luckily I can put away spend at Marriott hotels quite easily.

        • Ken says:

          Struggling to see how it beats a free Gold card, unless you are staying in Marriott hotels for enough to hit Platinum

      • Rob says:

        I thought they launched same day?

      • TGLoyalty says:

        No nights changed with the rate drop.

        You got gold after 15k spend but you had to do all the Nights to get higher status.

  • Tom says:

    You need to really look at the reward after the first year and forget the bonus, especially as many will not get it with Amex.

  • Brian says:

    Hard to disagree regarding the BAPP in “normal” times. However, I didn’t get anywhere near spending £10k on it last year and probably this year too so I’ve downgraded.

    • AmandaB says:

      Me too. I also have 3 x 2-4-1 vouchers sitting in my BA account that I can’t use.
      I have cancelled the Amex Gold card and replaced with the free rewards card and downgraded the BA card to the free version. I will apply for the Nectar MasterCard and stop using the Tesco MasterCard. This will be my strategy for a while.
      Once this is all over I will look again.

      • Mikeact says:

        Exactly, me too. Nectar card arrived yesterday, bye bye Tesco MC.

      • BuildBackBetter says:

        Why keep the free BA card? Close it and get the paid one after 2 years with sign up bonus? Use the gold + Sainsbury’s until then?

    • GaryC says:

      I agree. Between my wife and I, we have five 241 vouchers that we can’t use, and close to 7 figures avios we can’t spend. That’s after cashing in enough at Laithwaites on champagne that will take years to drink.

      An article looking at sensible current avios valuation based on future travel scenarios, thoughts on future cash ticket prices, viability of ex-EU etc would be interesting, rather than just sticking to out dated “minimum 1p value” models.

      • The Savage Squirrel says:

        To be fair, none of us really know what future cash ticket prices will do as the factors involved range far beyond simple supply and demand. We are in uncharted territory here.

        • kitten says:

          Personally I think air travel, longhaul at least, is going tp go through a period of being very expensive.

          • Rob says:

            Reasons flights may be very cheap: airlines are stuck with the aircraft – a huge fixed cost – so will fly as long as passenger revenue covers marginal costs, cargo means long-haul flights must go regardless on passenger numbers or revenue, airlines willing to lose money (or at least not make money) if it means getting people back in the air

            Reasons flights may get very expensive: low passenger numbers do not cover fuel costs on non-cargo routes, huge return of demand outstrips the reduced passenger capacity of long-haul airlines (after 747 retirements, pilot and crew redundancies etc)

      • Ken says:

        No end of words recently about the nectar deal putting a floor of 0.8p.

        1p or 0.8p is neither here nor there for most people- they are what they are worth to you.

        Personally I cashed a load MR points at 0.9p last year – although it is nice to have a pot of Avios to hope with.

        How can you put an objective price on flexibility & convenience?

        • Rob says:

          True – ticket flexibility with miles is hugely valuable to us. We changed our return Dubai flight 4 times – with no fees at all, as this was Emirates miles and not Avios. You can’t do that for cash tickets.

    • Hotelier says:

      BAPP if you can get welcome bonus or you spent a loooot, great. No welcome bonus, Free BA spend 10k and upgrade at the end.
      I have cancelled Gold / BA cards for husband and myself and only got the Amex nectar for him as wanted to keep a card, can use then Shop small and if a referral comes along, although to be fair I’ve got all friends covered by now with better referral cards.
      Going to start the 24 months and will then do Nectar/BAPP/Platinum for myself + BAPP/Platinum for him. With enough 2-4-1s and Avios to cover for the upcoming two years good time to do it + re-mortgaging this year so rather keep credit score in check. Got the SB credit card too, if get bored may get the Virgin Card but every time I ran the eligibility check says I can’t get it straight away

    • Alex Sm says:

      Spending was ok but I don’t know what to do with the companion vouchers. So downgraded to a blue BA card

  • Chris Heyes says:

    I Agree totally with your article, but would add it’s also age related, I was a big fan of the Platinum before i turned 70 now not so, unless it’s just to have for couple of months at most
    Was easier before the 2 year rule came into effect
    The BA Premium still a big fan can juggle around Bonuses 3 of us easily, so always have at least 1 voucher (mostly 2) a year
    Gold big fan but only when it’s 20k Bonus + 10k Always only keep for 13 Months at most 14 Month (ditch soon as additional 10k arrives)
    I find the 2 lounge Vouchers totally useless, never used them wish i could give them away.
    Although i can imagine if anybody travels Economy they would be great.
    We’ve only ever travelled once , long time ago (it wont happen again enough said)
    No idea how people put up with package sardine tins Holidays lol
    But i know thousand’s do ?

    • Anna says:

      Morning Chris, I agree on the BAPP, it’s the card which works the best for us. Also the gold lounge passes – if you fly from MAN they are pretty useless, as the lounges are generally full with pre-bookings (or so they tell you!).
      I think re economy travel, most people don’t consider there’s an alternative until they actually travel in J or F – certainly I’ve never managed to persuade anyone that it’s worth the effort of seriously collecting avios for premium cabin seats. My in-laws use theirs to get a few £100 of their economy flights to Bermuda 🙄

    • Harry T says:

      Lounge passes quite handy when you’re taking a cheap LCC/economy flight somewhere very close, especially from the regions. For example, it makes way more sense from Newcastle to just get a direct economy flight with Ryanair to Dublin rather than connect to use business. I have a similar mindset when flying to LHR or AMS. I’ve flown J from LHR to NCL on an upgrade offer to surprise my gf before or when it’s the only Avios ticket available last minute – it’s nice but probably not worth the extra.

      For medium to long haul, I 100% agree that there is little value in lounge passes if you travel in J/F, unless you prefer the Plaza Premium in T5!

      • Anna says:

        It’s great if you can use the lounge passes at your regional airport, but at MAN I’ve been turned away consistently due to them being “full”! We’ve managed to get access with the passes once out of about 4/5 attempts. Pre-covid we did manage to use them a couple of times at Nice and Hamburg but European lounges tend to be a bit poor in terms of food offering (NCE especially – all they offered was cheese and biscuits plus individually wrapped madeleines!)

        • BuildBackBetter says:

          Is the pre-booking charge £5?

          • Anna says:

            BBB – lol, I get your point but if you’d been in the Escape lounge in MAN you’d know that the offerings aren’t worth £5 each!!

        • David D says:

          For NCE, was that out of Terminal 1 in the Canopy Lounge? The times I have flown there have been from Terminal 2 and in the Levity Lounge which was pretty good on each occasion. Also, and I think I have been extremely lucky on all the occasions I have flown from MAN over the past 4-5 years is I have not had any issues entering any of the Escape Lounges especially in terminal 3 as they were always happy to squeeze me, or my Mother and I in.

          • Anna says:

            Yes, T1 as I recall. Busy lounges at MAN are probably also down to us travelling at peak times, though oddly the one time we did get in, was in August!

  • Wally1976 says:

    An important point (that wasn’t mentioned unless I missed it) with the Amex cards is that the annual fee is refunded pro-rata if you cancel. No other cards offer this as far as I’m aware.

  • jonty says:

    The text talks about the amex personalgold but picture and charge details are for business gold

    • memesweeper says:

      … and the business gold is not, by any reasonable measure, worth the fee.

      • Ken says:

        Business gold free in first year, and only disallows you for bonuses for 6 months so perfect if in a ‘fallow 2 year’ period and your partner has cards & supplementarys.
        Gives shop small , usual range of offers and gave £50 on the PayPal offer recently.

        The only cards I see value in paying for is BAPP and platinum (when you can actually travel).

  • John G says:

    Newbie here – how do you find out what the taxes and charges will be for an Avios redemption? If using 2-4-1 i assume you have to pay these for both persons? Thanks

    • Freddy says:

      Do a dummy booking through the BA website and yeah you have to pay taxes for both persons

    • Rob says:

      Do a dummy booking on the BA website.

    • Anna says:

      This is when you have to weigh up whether it’s worth paying the taxes/fees as you’re looking at over £1200 for 2 of you to fly to the US, for example.

      • Mark says:

        The taxes and surcharges for me are the stinger at the moment. You can get cash premium economy seats for not much more than the surcharges in a sale, and upgrading using avios to club (depending on peak vs off peak) uses about the same or even fewer avios in total as using a 241 in club, but you also earn tier points and avios on the cash part of the ticket.

        • BuildBackBetter says:

          Cash or cash+upgrade for competitive routes. Redemption (with 2-4-1s) on non-competitive routes

  • Jonathan says:

    Rob you forgot to mention that the Lufthansa Miles & More MasterCard is a debit card, and can be used anywhere that turns down credit cards, and doesn’t require a Curve Metal card for this perk

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