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Why using Virgin Points on ANA is the best way to use air miles to get to Japan

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If you are considering travelling to Japan, the obvious options – especially if you want to earn Avios and British Airways tier points – are British Airways and Japan Airlines.

(Japan Airlines is a member of the oneworld alliance, alongside BA, so you can earn Avios and Executive Club tier points, and spend Avios, on its flights.)

ANA

There is another option ….

There is a third airline flying directly from Heathrow to Tokyo – ANA.  In normal times, ANA runs a daily service, departing at 7pm, to Tokyo Haneda, which is substantially more convenient than Tokyo Narita.

ANA is a member of Star Alliance.  This means that you can credit ANA flights to Lufthansa Miles & More, United MileagePlus, Singapore Airlines Krisflyer, ANA’s own Mileage Club or whichever other Star Alliance airline you prefer.  

How to use Virgin Points to fly ANA

You can obviously redeem miles from any of the Star Alliance airlines for reward tickets on ANA.

You may not know, however, that ANA is also a Virgin Atlantic partner.  You can redeem your Virgin Flying Club points for tickets on ANA. 

Even better, the rate is VERY attractive, especially when compared to an Avios redemption.

You can also earn Virgin Flying Club miles when booking cash tickets on ANA, if you want to steer your next business trip their way.

How many Virgin Points do I need to fly ANA?

You can see the Virgin Flying Club earning and spending chart for ANA on this page of the Virgin Atlantic website.

Assuming you are based in the UK, these are the key numbers you need to know:

  • Economy return flight (London to Tokyo) – 65,000 Virgin Points
  • Business return flight (London to Tokyo) – 95,000 Virgin Points
  • First return flight (London to Tokyo) – 120,000 Virgin Points

Note that one way redemptions are not possible.

Availability, pre covid, seemed to be limited to ONE First Class seat per flight, especially on the aircraft with the new ‘THE Suite’ product which we discuss below. This is not a great option for a couple unless you book one seat and wait to see if another is released later.

How does this compare with Avios pricing?

These are exceptionally good rates in Business and First.  For comparison, this is what you pay using Avios for a British Airways redemption:

  • Economy return flight (London to Tokyo) – 39,000 Avios off-peak / 60,000 Avios peak
  • Business return flight (London to Tokyo) – 150,000 Avios off-peak / 180,000 Avios peak
  • First return flight (London to Tokyo) – 204,000 Avios off-peak / 240,000 Avios peak

The price gap between Avios and Virgin miles is stunning.  Even with a British Airways American Express 2-4-1 voucher, it is STILL a better deal to use Virgin Flying Club miles most of the time when travelling Business or First Class.

Even better, there are no fuel surcharges added to ANA redemptions using Virgin Points.  You will have to pay the usual Air Passenger Duty, Heathrow departure taxes etc.

(Apologies for not providing the exact tax numbers. I didn’t think Virgin would appreciate me taking up call centre time at the moment to book dummy redemptions. Looking at the comments below it appears to be around £250 return in First or Business, which represents a substantial saving over using Avios on BA.)

Use Virgin Points on ANA

ANA also has a lot of route options

If you can’t find availability on the ANA flights from London, they also flew – pre coronavirus – to Tokyo from Frankfurt, Munich, Dusseldorf, Brussels, Vienna and Paris.  It is not clear how many of these routes will be flying in 2021.

Virgin Flying Club appears to have access to the same availability as Star Alliance partners. The Aeroplan (Air Canada) and United Airlines websites are both decent places to search for seats before calling Virgin to book.

Is ANA any good?

Oh yes.

In 2019, ANA launched a new Business and First Class seat on its Boeing 777-300ER aircraft, and the London route was the first to get it.  It looks rather good, to put it mildly.

The First Class suites, known as ‘THE Suite’, are arranged in a 1-2-1 configuration.  Finished in dark woods, there are two only rows which make this an intimate cabin:

ANA first class the suite

The seat almost takes the full width of the suite, with only a thin slither along the side given over to storage or as an armrest. There is also an exceptionally large 43” screen which has a 4K display.

THE Room is ANA’s new Businesss Class product.  Club World style, half of the seats face forwards and half face backwards.

If you look at the photo below the first thing that will strike you is how disproportionately wide the seat is.  Look at the head rest.  You can see the protective cover, which is about what you’d expect the seat width to be. THE Room looks like it is twice as wide – more sofa-like than a seat! ANA says that THE Room has twice the width of their old business class seat (click for Anika’s flight review) which is not hard to believe.

Of course, this is business class and the trade-off is that it does taper into a cubby hole where your feet end up.  Nonetheless, the extra width at torso and shoulder height makes sitting and sleeping in this seat feel a lot less cramped.  It is a very clever piece of design.

ANA business class the room

I haven’t flown THE Room but I have sat in the seat at a media event.  It is, genuinely, huge.  At one point there were two of us sat side by side on the seat and we were able to have a normal conversation, with a decent bit of space between us.

Not content with a sliding door, THE Room also has a second opening which slides up and down.  This allows the crew to pass food to you whilst the door is closed, getting around one of the biggest issues with Club Suite and Qsuite.  The 24 inch 4K TV also looked very impressive, although it was not operating.

ANA business class the room

THE Room deservedly won ‘Editor’s Choice’ for ‘Best New Business Class Seat’ at the 2019 Head for Points Travel & Loyalty Awards.

Conclusion

Assuming the Olympics go ahead as planned next year, Japan is likely to see a surge of tourism both during and after the games.

If Japan is on your radar for a post-covid break, you should be seriously considering flying ANA using Virgin Flying Club points and potentially locking in some dates before the post-Olympics bounce sees seats disappear.

Remember that flying out of Frankfurt or another European gateway may make it easier to find availability.  


How to earn Virgin Points from UK credit cards

How to earn Virgin Points from UK credit cards (December 2021)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Virgin Points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses.

You can choose from two official Virgin Atlantic credit cards (apply here, one has a bonus of 15,000 points):

Virgin Rewards credit card

Virgin Atlantic Reward Mastercard

The UK’s most generous free Visa or Mastercard at 0.75 points / £1 Read our full review

Virgin Rewards Plus credit card

Virgin Atlantic Reward+ Mastercard

15,000 points bonus and the most generous non-Amex for day to day spending Read our full review

You can also earn Virgin Points from various American Express cards – and these have sign-up bonuses too.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold is FREE for a year and comes with 20,000 Membership Rewards points, which convert into 20,000 Virgin Points:

Nectar American Express

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & two airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express comes with 30,000 Membership Rewards points, which convert into 30,000 Virgin Points:

American Express Platinum card Amex

The Platinum Card from American Express

30,000 points and an unbeatable set of travel benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Virgin Points

(Want to earn more Virgin Points?  Click here to see our recent articles on Virgin Atlantic and Flying Club and click here for our home page with the latest news on earning and spending other airline and hotel points.)

Comments (50)

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  • Olly says:

    Rob you make a claim that “it is better than using a 241 voucher most of the time” but this is unsubstantiated and given that the points value is lower or equal to that of Virgin on BA it’s not clear why this is your view. Could you please elaborate?

    • Rob says:

      I don’t think it requires a maths PhD to suggest that paying 240k VS miles for the (so superior it is laughable) ANA First seat PLUS keeping your BA Amex 241 for another day is better than blowing 240k Avios + a 241 for 2 BA First Class seats!

      (That said, it is unlikely you’ll get 2 x ANA F in the new suite, unless they dump availability post covid, so the discussion is moot.)

      There is even less debate, I think, about whether paying 190k VS miles for the (even more superior) ANA new business seat PLUS keeping your BA Amex 241 for another day is better than blowing 180k Avios + a 241 for 2 BA Club World seats!

      You are saving in taxes too.

      • Olly says:

        Perhaps it’s more of a psychology PhD than a maths one 🤓

        • Olly says:

          I would guess that for most people collecting miles it won’t be a choice. In that someone may have enough miles to redeem on one or the other service but not for both (certainly those who want to redeem as a family).

          • TGLoyalty says:

            Just because you don’t have enough of one or the other doesn’t mean it’s not the better deal.

            ANA via VS points is a better deal than Avios + 2-4-1. Fact.

            You may not have enough points to redeem for your family. Unfortunately you missed out on the best deal.

  • Michael C says:

    The business seat looks stunning – and fabulous to have your kid next to you to watch a film for a bit, etc.!

  • avstar says:

    one of the few sweetspots left in this game

    • Rob says:

      Not true. The value I have had on hotel points this week has been absurd. 1.2p per Marriott point, almost 1p per Hilton point (which I bought for 0.4p) etc.

      • avstar says:

        thats not bad but you could argue in this climate thats the very least you would seek to get from hotel points. for a decade now route redemption this has definitely been one of the best across all programmes (especially considering taxes), i just wonder how much longer it will be available at this price – esp considering supply vs demand….

  • Alan says:

    The Suite is fantastic, flew it last year 👍👍

  • Tom1 says:

    I called VS in November to check the points and fees and was quoted 120k + £242 per person for first LHR-HND return.

    This tallied with the fees shown on the United website, apart from a few pennies with I assume was fx rates in to gbp.

    • Alan says:

      Cost me £401 in taxes & charges for that route in F last year, which matched the ITA quote.

      • Tom1 says:

        When was that? Seem to recall seeing something about ANA scrapping taxes/fees etc on the outbound leg from Japan sometime in the last 6 months

    • Rob says:

      Thanks

    • SimonC says:

      I booked in July just after ANA pretty much abolished their YQ charge. This is what I paid plus 120k VS points.

      Base Fare
      USD 0.00
      Carrier-imposed Surcharge (YQ)
      GBP 1.60
      United Kingdom – Air Passenger Duty (APD) (GB)
      GBP 180.00
      United Kingdom – Passenger Service Charge (UB)
      GBP 48.66
      Japan – Passenger Service Facilities Charge (SW)
      GBP 19.60
      International Tourist Tax – Japan
      GBP 7.50
      Total Amount
      GBP 257.36

      • Bob says:

        I remember seeing the tax amounts discussed on one of the chat threads recently and noted the below down for future ref. From someone who had booked and they advised:

        “looking at tax of £252.16 if departing from UK and £106.80 if departing from other European airports”

  • Jonathan says:

    The downside is if Virgin cease to exist prior to flight your ticket will be cancelled as it’s only when you fly that they actually hand over the cash.

    I assume it is also possible to cancel a redemption booking?

    • Rob says:

      Yes

    • tom1 says:

      yes, and that’s why you should also pay the taxes on a credit card.

      • Ming The Merciless says:

        I booked this x4 in first to protect my vs points, while a family holiday to Japan in first wasn’t my original choice of redemption, it’s preferable to transfer out to Hilton at a devaluation, and can be cancelled when the financial
        Future of VS is more certain. If VS do go pop then I’ve got section 75 to fall back on to implement the planned holiday with another carrier.

        • Dick Steele says:

          Certainly not a ming-ing prospect

        • Jonathan says:

          Not sure there’s any certainty you’d get a new ticket on an alternative airline via S75. Think a few people tried & failed with Air Berlin redemptions.

  • Matt says:

    Flew in 2019, pre The Suite and was suitably impressed. No stunned was a better word.

    Did IAD – HND/NRT – JFK because it was easier to find 2 seats, and it cost £344 for us both. I think the taxes are something like £55 each currently because Japan limits fuel surcharges by law according to the oil price.

  • Bruce says:

    LHR-HND seat availability for VS redemption is different to the star alliance airlines website. in fact even more limited? had 3 business class seats redemption in 2016, even with advertised by United, VS agents claimed no availability. in the end offered seat but was due to VS agent error sold as marketing tickets (same points required). also tried SIN-DPS redemption and VS agent again mentioned different availability compared with star alliance.

    • tom1 says:

      From what I have seen and checked with virgin (limited), the VS availability is the same as the “Saver” fares shown in United system.

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