EXCLUSIVE: the new British Airways cabin crew pay offer revealed – substantial cuts for legacy crew

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• Briandt says:

  17 May17 May 17:05

  Just asking for clarification.. something wrong with that ?

• Craig W says:

  17 May17 May 18:37

  @Novice

  I said a few weeks ago that I liked reading your posts as half the time I nodded along and half the time I rolled my eyes so hard my head nearly fell off.

  Don’t stop posting because of one individual having a bitter view towards your opinions (some people can’t accept opposing views/debate) – whether I agree with them or not, I always find them interesting and read them!

  • Josh says:

    17 May17 May 18:48

    Agreed. Wouldn’t want anyone to stop posting. Please keep commenting, Novice.

    • Lady London says:

      18 May18 May 08:59

      just try not to keep telling us you’re young all the time! you’re not alone you’d be surprised at the age range on here.

• Alex Clarke says:

  18 May18 May 07:24

  I feel very sorry for the staff involved, many of whom have been with the company since leaving school. It’s been their life. They need to be offered a decent redundancy package. If they stay on the new terms they are likely to spread resentment and bad feeling throughout the remaining staff – I don’t blame them – I would! But that’s bad for business and customer service. Sickness levels will rise and it won’t end well. Pay them off – do the right thing – in the long term the cost is negligible.

  On the other side, since 9/11 everyone working in the airline sector knows how vulnerable the industry is. It’s not a an industry I would venture into for job security. Plus the green lobbyists are all over aviation so in the next 10 things will change.

  People are quick to jump all over capitalism etc but are quite happy when capitalism brings competition and cheap flights.

  The very best of luck to all those in aviation & hospitality.

• Andy S says:

  18 May18 May 11:31

  Most cabin crew would be better off getting a job with their local train company as a station assistant.

  Long term I can see BA having a recruitment problems, as these wages makes it near on possible to live near LHR with housing costs.

  • mr_jetlag says:

    18 May18 May 13:13

    Many people live in London on those wages – just not at the level of comfort or financial freedom some people here seem to think they’re entitled to as an employee of a near bankrupt company in a collapsing industry.

    • J says:

      18 May18 May 13:37

      BA is nowhere near bankruptcy. If you work in the private sector perhaps your company is now experiencing a drop in revenue – are you volunteering for a permanent pay cut and permanent loss of benefits? As there’s someone else who will do your job for less – do you deserve to lose your job? Some people believe in an unrestricted capitalism with little to no protection for employees. I don’t.

  • Spaghetti Town says:

    18 May18 May 13:38

    I agree the wages are poor, but as long as people keep applying and the positions get filled, I can’t really see them struggling. I imagine if they were struggling to get people, they’d increase the pay.

    Pre crisis there was a waiting list for mixed fleet

    • J says:

      18 May18 May 14:23

      True people keep applying but not many are staying – having such a high staff turnover and needing to constantly recruit cannot be cheap. And there’s value to any business in having some experienced people in these roles (as demonstrated by the “legacy” fleets achieving higher customer satisfaction scores).

• Opus says:

  18 May18 May 17:12

  Are the unions actually thinking of taking BA to court? Did they commit a crime?

  • Rob says:

    18 May18 May 18:19

    It is unlawful not to have a proper consultation. BA has also allegedly broken various binding agreements given in the past.

• Rebecca says:

  21 May21 May 15:45

  Just a technicality, but are you able to amend your article to 4 – 5 ‘trips’ per month, not 3 – 4 flights?
  Most people think of a ‘flight’ as one flight, to us that’s one ‘sector’.
  A ‘trip’ can often comprise of 4 transatlantic flights (in 5 or 6 days). So that’s more than your article suggests for a month carried out in 5 days. We do these back-to-back transatlantic 4 sector trips once every month on longhaul as a rule (could be more than once a month). On top of that many other trips are multi-sectorial, even on each day and in each direction, e.g. LHR-BAH-DOH DOH-BAH-LHR, 4 flights, one very short trip. On average it’s 5 trips per month unless you have more than one long trip (most are short in terms of time away these days- though still long sectors).
  Average sectors per full month (i.e. no annual leave & full time) is about 14. Including 1 back-to-back (4), one multi-sector (4) and 3 x there and back nightstops (@ 2 sectors each).
  So, 14 flights per full month, not 3 – 4.

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