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The SPG Amex rebrands as the Marriott Bonvoy American Express credit card

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A few days I wrote a long article on the Starwood Preferred Guest American Express Card.

It seems that this was a partial waste of time (only partial, because we’ve cut and pasted much of it into this article) because American Express has now announced the rebranding of the card, with ‘enhanced’ benefits.

This is what is happening on 26th February:

The name of the card will be changed to the Marriott Bonvoy American Express card

The earning rate will be slashed by 33%, from 3 Marriott Bonvoy points per £1 to 2 Marriott Bonvoy points per £1

The earning rate at Marriott Bonvoy hotels will remain 6 Marriott Bonvoy points per £1

Instead of giving all cardholders Silver Elite status, you will receive 15 elite night credits per year.  This will trigger Silver Elite status anyway, but also means that you are 15 nights closer to Gold Elite, Platinum Elite or Titanium Elite status.  This is a genuine improvement.

The annual fee remains at £75

Looking at the image on the letter, I think the card design is a copy of this US Bonvoy card:

Marriott Bonvoy American Express card

…… which is a shame, because this Bonvoy card – available only in the US – is much prettier in my view:

Marriott Bonvoy American Express card

Let’s take a look at the elite night credit in more detail.

These are the ‘nights’ requirements for different levels of Marriott Bonvoy status:

  • Basic Member: 0-9 nights
  • Silver Elite: 10-24 nights
  • Gold Elite: 25-49 nights
  • Platinum Elite: 50-74 nights
  • Titanium Elite: 75-99 nights

Because the Marriott Bonvoy American Express comes with 15 elite night credits, you will only need:

  • 10 additional nights for Gold Elite
  • 35 additional nights for Platinum Elite
  • 60 additional nights for Titanium Elite

Gold Elite is not worth much, so I won’t focus on that.  You can also receive Marriott Bonvoy Gold Elite status for free by getting The Platinum Card from American Express.

Platinum Elite is where it gets interesting.  You can see the list of Platinum Elite benefits on the Marriott website here, but to summarise the relevant ones:

You get Executive Lounge access when the hotel has a lounge

You get a 50% bonus on your base points on every stay

You get a room upgrade, including suites, if available 

You get a welcome amenity – which can include restaurant breakfast if the hotel has no lounge or you would prefer to use the restaurant (this article explains the Bonvoy breakfast benefit by brand)

You get a GUARANTEED 4pm check-out except at convention and resort hotels

However you look at it, Platinum Elite is a good package.

50 nights is a stretch unless you are travelling heavily each week.  35 nights, on the other hand, is manageable for a lot of people.

If you believe that you could comfortably do 35 Marriott Bonvoy nights per year then it is well worth paying £75 for the new Marriott Bonvoy American Express in order to secure Platinum Elite status.

But if you’re not bothered about earning Platinum Elite status …..

For anyone who is NOT bothered about pushing for Platinum Elite status, the Marriott Bonvoy American Express is substantially less attractive than the SPG version. The day to day earning rate is cut by 33%.

I tend to value a Marriott Bonvoy point at 0.5p.  2 points per £1 means that you are getting a 1% return on your spending.  This isn’t bad BUT you are paying £75 per year for the privilege.

In comparison, if you value an airline mile at 1p, you could get:

1% back via the FREE British Airways American Express (1 Avios per £1)

0.75% back via the FREE Virgin Atlantic Reward Mastercard (0.75 miles per £1)

1.25% back via the £79 Lufthansa Global Traveller Mastercard (1.25 miles per £1)

What other benefits does the Starwood Amex offer?

Let’s run through the other benefits of the Marriott Bonvoy American Express card.

You receive Silver Elite status in Marriott Bonvoy

Because you only need 10 elite nights to receive Silver Elite status, and you will receive 15 elite night credits each year for holding the card, everyone who gets it will be – at the least – Silver Elite in Marriott Bonvoy.

The benefits of Silver Elite are not huge, of course.  You can see the different Marriott tier levels here.

The key benefits of Silver Elite status are:

    • 10% bonus on base points earned
    • ‘Priority’ for late check-out requests

…. and that’s it, at least in terms of stuff you will find genuinely useful.  It isn’t a lot but it should stop you getting the room overlooking the bins.

Marriott Silver status with Starwood American Express Card SPG

You get a free night voucher you get when you spend £25,000 in a year

The free night benefit is remaining as part of the card rebranding.

This sounds great, given some of the luxury properties in the Marriott portfolio.  However – whilst the Amex website doesn’t tell you this – it can only be used at hotels which costs up to 25,000 points per night.

This isn’t much.  For comparison, the top Bonvoy redemptions now cost 100,000 points per night.

It is also not possible to book a better hotel and pay the additional points on top.

In the UK, 25,000 points gets you the Bexleyheath Marriott, Courtyard Aberdeen Airport, MOXY Heathrow Airport, Durham Marriott, Portsmouth Marriott etc.  There is nothing in Central London – the MOXY at Excel is the nearest qualifying option, and even that goes up to 30,000 points on a ‘peak’ night.

Spending £25,000 on an Amex card is NOT easy – and your only reward is a free night at a relatively low-rent hotel.  It makes no sense.

Manchester Airport Marriott

It comes with a good sign-up bonus worth 10,000 Avios – if you qualify

Due to the new tough restrictions on sign-up bonuses that American Express launched last year, virtually no-one now qualifies for the sign-up bonus on the Marriott Bonvoy Amex.  You can’t get it if you have any other Amex card, and virtually no-one would choose the Bonvoy card as their first Amex.  Without a sign-up bonus, the £75 annual fee – which is NOT waived in Year 1 – looks tough.

(You SHOULD get the Marriott Bonvoy Amex as your first Amex card, as I wrote in this article.  But unless you read HFP, you probably wouldn’t.)

On the off-chance that you haven’t had any other personal American Express cards in the last 24 months, you qualify for the sign-up bonus of 30,000 Bonvoy points.  30,000 points is good for around £150 of free hotel nights or will convert into 10,000 miles with over 40 airlines, including Avios and Virgin Flying Club.

One positive quirk of Marriott Bonvoy is that you can transfer points between members for free, up to 100,000 points per year.  This means that you could persuade a family member who would qualify for the bonus to take one out and then transfer the points to you.

There is a low spend target to trigger the bonus

You only need to spend £1,000 within 90 days to receive 30,000 Bonvoy points as a sign-up bonus.  This is handy if you struggle to hit the £3,000+ required for Amex Gold, Platinum or BA Premium Plus.

You earn 2 Marriott Bonvoy points per £1 spent which I value at 1p

As I wrote above, the earning rate is looking weak now and certainly not a reason to have the card.  The only exception would be if you were spending such large sums that the £75 fee became a rounding error.

The double points (6 per £1) offer for spending at the 30 Marriott brands now seems to be permanent.  This IS a decent deal when staying at UK hotels.

Note that the card has a 3% FX fee so, irrespective of double points, it isn’t a good one to use abroad until your employer is repaying you.

It is a good way of earning airline miles if your airline no longer has a credit card

This is the real reason that you may want to get the Marriott Bonvoy Amex.  Now that Emirates, Etihad, American and United no longer have UK credit cards, the Marriott Bonvoy Amex is the best way to earn miles in these programmes.  There are also 30+ other airlines who never had a UK credit card, such as Air Canada and Qatar Airways, where this credit card is the best way to earn miles in the UK from day to day spend.

The problem is that, at 2 Bonvoy points (0.66 airline miles) per £1 of spending, the £75 per year annual fee doesn’t make sense for a lot of people.

You get Marriott Bonvoy Gold Elite status for spending £15,000 in a card year

This isn’t worth much, to be honest, because Bonvoy Gold Elite has few benefits.  More importantly, you can get Marriott Bonvoy Gold Elite status for free simply by taking out an American Express Platinum charge card, no spending required.

The new ’15 elite nights’ credit means that you would also receive Gold Elite status after spending just 10 nights per year in Marriott hotels.

The £75 annual fee is refundable pro-rata if you cancel

You can cancel the card at any point and receive a pro-rata refund of the annual fee.

Conclusion

For a small group of people – basically anyone who can easily do 35 Marriott nights per year but less than the 50 nights required to get Platinum Elite automatically – the ability to receive 15 elite night credits will make the Marriott Bonvoy American Express worth getting.

Unfortunately, I think far more people will now look at the £75 annual fee and the reduced ‘2 points per £1’ earning rate and decide to cancel.

My full review of the Starwood Amex credit card is here.  You can apply for the card here.  The new card is not available, but if you apply now for the SPG-branded version the new benefits will apply from 26th February.


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Comments (256)

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  • William Chan says:

    Hi Rob, I still have the Marriott Rewards Mastercard issued by Creation (closed to new applicants), which comes with a 10 elite nights bonus annually. With the new SPG (Marriott Bonvoy AMEX) 15 elite bonus nights, will I get 25 eilte bonus nights in total from the two cards, or just one of them?
    Many thanks.

    • Riccatti says:

      I understand that in US you CAN’T have credit card bonus nights from both, AMEX Bonvoy and Chase Visa Bonvoy.

      1. It is unlikely that UK AMEX Bonvoy nights will be added to US AMEX Bonvoy nights (or it will be surprise). BEWARE Marriott Bonvoy systems trawl and deduct second credit of credit card nights…

      2. However, UK Creation card is historically for Marriott Rewards and its nights might stick. Especially if UK AMEX does not have a disclaimer about it — then one have all grounds to request the promised night credits.

      • koroleon says:

        I have the Chase Bonvoy card and the Creation card and the nights stack. If the UK Amex card nights also stacked, I’d go for it without a second thought. I doubt we’ll see many reports on this though.

    • C I Meyer says:

      Same for me and I have the same question. Will the 10 and 15 elite nights stack to give me 25? If so this would be very attractive as it makes reaching Platinum much more achievable.

    • Neil Donoghue says:

      You are the real winner here!! Well done

    • Rob says:

      No idea.

  • Shoestring says:

    Virgin Atlantic Reward+ Credit Card (£160)
    Earn 15,000 bonus miles with your first card purchase – just make it within 90 days of opening your account.
    Limited Offer
    Plus, get an extra 10,000 miles when you apply on or before 28 February 2020 and spend £3,000 within 90 days of opening your account.

  • The Streets says:

    I am trying to work out if you are Gold Elite via the Amex Platinum card and receive the 15 nights credit via this card then how many additional nights are needed to attain Platinum Elite

    • TGLoyalty says:

      You only have 15 nights so still 35 nights.

      Gold via amex platinum still leaves you needing 50 nights for platinum.

    • Shoestring says:

      good one to get feedback on when it actually happens to somebody – you never know!

      a certain logic says that if you are at a certain tier point already (which otherwise relies on having stayed a certain number of nights) – then, subsequently, other ways of adding on nights mean they get added onto your existing tier point position

      otherwise you’d be going back to zero & starting again

      • TGLoyalty says:

        For reaching platinum you do start at zero as the only way to get it is to earn all 50 nights.

        Same for reaching diamond after getting Hilton Gold via Platinum or the the Hilton Visa.

      • Riccatti says:

        No chance with that logic. 50 Nights for Platinum.

        I would not bother with Marriott Bonvoy Gold though, no one should.

        • Shoestring says:

          I’m sure you’re both right.

          fwiw, you remember I recently got the various free car rental status matches to get free status? – which HFP has so far completely ignored! – well, my status there is a starting point for the next tier, so for one of them (Hertz or Europcar), all I need is a further 3 rentals (any) and I get a free weekend rental in a decent car. With any luck, £1 ‘back to Heathrow’ rentals count.

          • Marcw says:

            They are of limited value. The success story of rental car frequent programs is VERY limited. Since the majority of people book on aggregator sites, the value of these statuses is very limited. Of course, if you collect status, then it’s a worthwhile exercise. Otherwise, I’ll give it a pass.

          • Shoestring says:

            no doubt true – but will I get a bigger car on my next £1 ‘back to Heathrow’ rental?

          • Doug M says:

            I’ve yet to see any actual value in rental car status apart from skipping queues. And the queue skipping doesn’t work when they’re low on cars as they like to manually allocate and not leave ready cars in bays for people that may be another hour if their flights were late.

          • Alan says:

            Must say I’ve had some great success with Hertz President’s Circle – amazing service recovery in upstate NY after they mucked up a booking and then in SA booked a basic car on a promo R99/day rate and received a nice SUV!

      • Alan says:

        Sadly not, you’ll be at zero.

      • Lady London says:

        Accor makes you do this. They won’t just charge you the increment from the status you have to the next level if your route to the lower level did not require all the nights for the lower level that year.

        Found that the hard way when I thought it might be worth bothering with Accor Platinum again. (I’ve got over that.).

        Another reason to avoid Accor.
        At least Marriott and Hilton work better that way.

  • Bupps says:

    Real shame. This add has been in my wallet for many years, but not much longer it seems. Any indication that Marriott will launch a Visa/MC version of this card eventually?

  • Colin MacKinnon says:

    Bye bye for us – shame, really liked the SPG earning rate for such a low £75 annual fee.

    And we actually used the free night – going to be staying in a Protea Hotel in South Africa next week!

    With BA charging huge fees for transatlantic redemptions, 241 is no use. So now thinking simple % cash back the way to go – especially with things like cheap Swiss deals for cash ( we are on one to SA)

    • Doug M says:

      My initial thoughts are very similar. You can find yourself trapped in a loop of desire for points and status benefits, when they’re all so vague. Collecting points for a year for a specific purpose only to see the scheme change and you no longer get what you wanted at the price you thought it would be. Cash is the most flexible currency and perhaps that is the best approach.

      • memesweeper says:

        … apart from cash, Marriot points are the most flexible currency after Amex MR I think.

        • Doug M says:

          But the scale of difference is enormous. Bonvoy point more flex than Amex MR more flex than other points. But these are nudging the margins, cash is off the scale in terms of flexibility.
          My other issue with points is the seeming disparity to cash. Most of the people with a good deal wanted expensive rooms to begin with, if you’re happy in a Hampton Inn, and I generally am, then the points needed seem very high compared to a luxury brand. So all this buying points to get a £500 room for £300 is an irrelevance to my travel habits. Appreciate different for others.
          Underlying all this is a creeping suspicion that any Amex offers little value now. Need thought and some time to consider.

      • Russ says:

        Indeed. You can buy lounge access with cash when you arrive at a hotel which, for occasional stayers or those who have one big holiday a year, may be a better option. And of course you aren’t tied to one hotel chain then.

  • Anna says:

    On the bright side, staying 10 nights in Marriott hotels to achieve gold will be a lot cheaper than spending £15k, £10 k of which can now be diverted to a second BAPP.

  • Louise says:

    Kept the card to try and top up points for a trip to Domes of Elounda next year, not sure if I will keep it now

  • Lewis King says:

    OT as no bits;

    £1300 Cape Town to Chiang Mai with Qatar, in QSuites most of the way. Good deal? Transferring in Doha with a long layover, assume lounge is okay?

    • guesswho2000 says:

      Great deal, and the lounge in DOH is good (not as good as it used to be, but still pretty good – Al Mourjan lounge is what you’ll be entitled to access).

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