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Why won’t British Airways refund your seat reservation fees when you cancel a flight?

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I thought it was worth taking a look today at one of the most egregious money-making schemes pursued by British Airways – the refusal to refund seat reservation fees if you cancel your booking.

This is a topic which has come up from time to time in our comments section, although we have never looked at it in an article.  What triggered this was a comment from reader Andrew on Monday.

Andrew had cancelled two Avios seats in Club World to the US.  All of his Avios and other charges had been refunded, less the £35 per head administration fee, as usual.

However, British Airways refused to refund £500 of seat reservation fees.

BA seat reservation fees

Can you really spend £500 on seat reservation fees for a couple?

Unfortunately, yes.

Rhys wrote this article in May about ‘fee creep’ at British Airways.

We used an example there of Heathrow to New York, where seat selection would cost up to £364 return for a couple.

Whilst we didn’t look at the US West Coast at that time, I just did a dummy booking for Heathrow to San Francisco next May.   As you can see, for someone without British Airways Gold or Silver status or the oneworld equivalent, if you want to sit on the top deck of the Boeing 747 it will cost you £139 per person each-way – a total of £556 return.  Bargain.

British Airways seat reservation fees

There are two issues here, I think: is it made clear that your reservation is non-refundable? and is this ‘fair’?

Is it made clear that seat reservations are non-refundable?

Let’s look at the first issue.  When you go into ba.com to select seats, this is what you see (click to enlarge):

The terms and conditions are not shown, but require you to click a hyperlink.  Not ideal, but probably acceptable.  But when you click the hyperlink, you get this:

This is meant to be a summary of the key terms and conditions.  At no point does it say that seat reservations are non refundable.

If you click on ‘More terms and conditions’ it DOES bring up a lengthy pop up box of rules.  If you scroll almost to the bottom, it DOES say that seat fees are non-refundable if you choose to cancel your flight.  I would argue, however, that this is too many clicks from the booking screen to be watertight.

Regardless of the T&Cs, is this ‘fair’?

You might say ‘it doesn’t matter if it’s fair’.

Except, under UK contract law, it does.

There are lots of pieces of regulation which could come into play here such as the Consumer Rights Act 2015, the Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977, the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999, the Sale of Goods Act 1979 and the Supply of Goods and Services Act 1982.

Here is a very concise summary from the Government’s own website:

Businesses can keep your deposit or advance payments, or ask you to pay a cancellation charge, only in certain circumstances:

If you cancel the contract, the business is generally only entitled to keep or receive an amount sufficient to cover their actual losses that directly result from your cancellation (eg costs already incurred or loss of profit).

Businesses must take reasonable steps to reduce their losses (eg by re-selling the goods or services).

Non-refundable deposits should only be a small percentage of the total price.

Cancellation charges must be a genuine estimate of the business’ direct loss.

A good base line is that a consumer contract can only be imposed if it is ‘fair’.

It is very, very difficult to see how retaining a payment of £500+ for seat selection is ‘fair’ when the airline was happy to cancel the underlying seats without penalty.

Seat selection fees also appear ‘unfair’ in terms of the ‘power’ given to each party.  British Airways, according to the small print, is free to throw you out of your allocated seats for any reason it wants:

“A paid seat request cannot be guaranteed, as it may need to be changed for operational, safety or security reasons, even after boarding the aircraft.”

“Paid seating will not be refunded if you cancel your flight, are involuntarily upgraded or are not suitable to sit in the seat type you have selected.”

“In relation to BA marketed and operated flights, if, in accordance with your fare rules, you choose to move to a different flight, you will be entitled to choose an equivalent seat on your new flight. However if an equivalent seat is not available the difference paid will be forfeited and will not be refunded. In relation to other carrier marketed flights, if you choose to move to a different flight, you will not be entitled to choose an equivalent seat on the new flight and you will not be entitled to a refund.”

Note that, if BA upgrades you, you don’t get a seat refund.  It is difficult to imagine a court agreeing with that, especially if you paid for seats purely in order to be together but – due to the upgrade – you were separated.

Oddly, if the whole transaction was non-refundable (the seat and the seat reservation), you may be able to make a case for retaining the seat fee.  You bought a product in advance at a cheaper price by buying it in advance rather than at short notice, with the trade off that the transaction was non-refundable.  This is seen as ‘fair’ under UK law.  The seat fee could be seen as part of the overall cost.

In the case of an Avios redemption – or a fully flexible cash ticket – it is a different story.  The airline is willing to refund the flight.  It is therefore virtually impossible, in my mind, to put together a ‘reasonable’ justification for keeping the seat selection fees.

Is it worth fighting this if it applies to you?

I would be very interested to hear from any HfP readers who have taken British Airways to CEDR arbitration (here is our guide on how to do it) or, failing that, to MCOL / Small Claims (here is our guide on how to do that) over seat selection fees.

In reader experience, British Airways will almost always fold if you take a compensation claim to arbitration or MCOL.  Whether right or wrong, the cost of defending the claim makes no sense.  When BA doesn’t fold, it usually loses.  The problem is that these cases do not set legal precedent.  Settlement usually comes with the requirement to sign a confidentiality agreement, so it cannot even be publicised.

It would require a full court hearing to take place before legal precedent was set, as happened in – for example – Jet2 vs Huzar, the case which set the precedent that mechanical failure was not an excuse for not paying EC261 compensation.

Until someone does that, however, British Airways will carry on attempting to extract large sums for seat selection fees on cancelled flights.

The only good news on the horizon is that, with the new Club Suite, the seats are created more or less equal and there is very little justification for spending money on a reservation.  Even if you end up not being able to sit together, other passengers should be more willing to move onboard to accommodate you as they would not be worse off.


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Comments (172)

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  • Sam G says:

    Turkish Airlines is even worse, if you change your flight you have to pay again!!

    • ankomonkey says:

      But, in my experience, in premium cabins seat selections is included fee-free on TK. Others may know better. So this just leaves this issue for TK economy, I think.

    • paul says:

      TK don’t charge for seat selection in J.

  • John says:

    What would happen if you refuse to sign a non-disclosure agreement?

    • meta says:

      Presumably BA wouldn’t offer you settlement and it would go to full hearing. This is why BA is quite generous in their settlements, so that you basically can’t refuse.

      • ChrisC says:

        Also the judge could make a costs order against you if they feel you have acted unreasonably.

        • Lady London says:

          Unlikely in MCOL. Remember unless the judge orders, by default all court jugements are public. Commercial embarrassment of British Airways when they lose is not ever coing to be a reason for a judge to make a gagging order.

          If BA is only offering what I am due anyway, and which would be ordered by thé court without a gagging order (and that’s for sûre it will be) then it’s not unreasonable to refuse to accepte thé extra condition of a gagging order.

          Think about it. It’s done BA a lot more damage having this issue about their practices and the fact that they settled, hasnt it? Imagine how much greater the damage to BA in réputation and cost of every other claim that follows as and when any court makes them pay. As courts wont give any gagging order for this. And other claimants will then claim for any similar incident going back 3 years in thé UK and possibly longer in other countries.

          This is why a gagging agreement has a value you need to ensure is paid additional to what mcol would get you anyway.

          • ChrisC says:

            A costs order might be unlikely but it is still a possibility if the Judge feels a claimant hasn’t acted in a resonable way such as if you refused a pre hearing offer that matches the claim you made against the company.

          • Lady London says:

            @ChrisC you are correct… but not if a condition of settlement including a gagging agreement is only the same amount you are claiming anyway.

            By all means accept it if there’s no gagging agreement attached – as Tracey did. But if BA is only offering to settle with a gagging agreement and it’s thé value of your claim, you either tell them you accepte but no gagging or, if they still want a gag then of course you want more money as that’s something extra that has a value that you want an amount extra for.

            Are you so cheap that you’d settle anything the moment someone waves a £1 note in front of you?

          • ChrisC says:

            Thanks for the unnecessary insult.

            I was simply pointing out that a Judge can make a costs order against you if they believe you have been unresonable during the entire claim process.

            A judge can rule you have been unreasonable if you refuse to sign an NDA as part of an offer earlier in the process or they can rule you have been resonable. But that is their decision. It might not happen very often but it does.

            But going to the hearing is not going to get you any more money because the Judge can only award – if they find in your favour – the amount you claim for. And you can only claim for actual specific items such as the designated amount of EU261 or the flight or seat whatever it is you are claimng for. You can’t claim for extra compensation for inconvenience or as a punishment,

  • Rooster says:

    Reminds me of the time when I paid TUI for 2 seats selection and then finding only 4 seats available and only 2 next to each other, got a refund after a letter to them!

  • Rooster says:

    BA will refund the seat costs if you upgrade yourself ie you pay for seat selection in economy and then upgrade to Club, in this case you could then cancel the club and get a refund if you booked with Avios.

  • Spurs Debs says:

    You can see why people try to game the system by using assistance services when they don’t require it when seat fees are so high. For clarity disabled passengers are allowed to choose seats at time of booking for free if they have asked for assistance, wether they have status or not. You have to tick a box how much help you need.

    • Shoestring says:

      does their carer get to choose seat as well/ sit next to them?

      • Spurs Debs says:

        Well not all disabled people travel with a carer but if they are on same booking yes, if the whole family/group are on same booking all get to choose for free.

      • MD says:

        That trip over the cat left you with serious difficulties boarding planes, right? And your other half is your carer? 😊

        • Spurs Debs says:

          No cat but falling off a horse at age 12 rather messed up my spine just a tad. Oh and no carer but apart from that you are spot on.

          • MD says:

            Sorry Debs that was directed at Harry, not you! I have this comment system, always confuses me. Anyway, I thought all HFP regulars knew of Harry’s run in with his cat a while back.

      • The Good Son says:

        They do.

        You have to ring up to get the fee waived and this nearly always involves a discussion about what disability you have. I once had an agent try to refuse my request and claimed that having one leg missing didn’t qualify me. I got stroppy so he put me hold to check with a supervisor and 5 mins later I was sorted.

        I do feel a slight pang of guilt whenever I do this but then realise not having to pay seat selection fees doesn’t really make up for having a leg chopped off.

        • Lady London says:

          Well said.

        • Spurs Debs says:

          Well next time tell them under the disability act it is in fact illegal of them to even ask what your disability is. That goes for physical and hidden disabilities. If they argue ask for a supervisor. I agree I would rather have a working body and pay the fees than only be able to go if I have assistance.

      • Alex W says:

        Remember not all disabilities are visible. I need an exit row seat for my emotional support donkey.

  • Yuff says:

    I was considering doing this next year on 2 club suite seats that I might have cancelled but if I book the flights I won’t pay fir seat selection now especially if someone might move anyway to free up a seat next to one of us…..
    Seat selection in J is poor compared to other carriers but to be non refundable is shocking.

  • Gary Hodgson says:

    Well this just sums up why BA is my absolute last option when flying business class

    • Anna says:

      And why I never pay for seat selection in CW! I think this must be a fairly new policy though as last year I did cancel 3 redemption seats in Y and got the seat reservation fee refunded automatically.

    • Gerry H says:

      Absolutely agree 100% Gary. The old days of “Fly the Flag” have been replaced by Rip-off British Airways. When I fly business to the Far East at my own cost I expect to be seated where I want without paying huge extra fees on top of pretty hefty fares. No wonder the big 3 in the Middle East get all my business.

  • Paul says:

    Great article Rob! It this type of rip offs that BA has become synonymous with and one reason I try hard to avoid them.
    That said, I do worry that there are people out there who actually pay these fees! A fool and their money are soon parted !

    • MLM says:

      It isn’t a case of fools and money.

      There will be reasons why people opt to pay and if they do that is their business.

      I have a J flight in a week or so from HKG to LHR. I am not looking forward to the prospect of climbing over someone, or someone climbing over me for the 13 hr duration. Therefore I have opted to pay the £94 to sit in a seat that means this won’t happen. I don’t look upon the seat cost as an extra, I calculate the entire price when comparing flights. The entire price is the fare, taxes and charges and any extras (seat selection).

      That said I would rather the fare price included a seat selection option (a bit like free postage when buying online) and it is built into the base cost and doesn’t seem to be a money grabbing exercise.

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