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Has Lloyds closed your Avios Rewards American Express credit card without telling you?

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The HfP comments section has been filled over the weekend with people who are confused about what has happened to their Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express card in the last few days.

As we covered in the past, Lloyds Bank is in the process of converting all existing Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express and Mastercard cards to a new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard.  It comes in the light green colour pictured below.

The key features of the new card are:

  • the upgrade voucher is dead
  • there will no longer be an annual fee, saving £24 (your old fee will be refunded pro-rata)
  • there will be foreign exchange fees of 3%

LLoyds Avios credit card

This is the earnings rate on the new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard:

0.4 Avios per £1 you spend in the UK

0.8 Avios per £1 you spend outside the UK

0.4 Avios per £1 transferred on a balance transfer

Because the Mastercard element of the old Avios Rewards cards was so poor, this actually represents an improvement.  You currently get 0.2 Avios per £1 on the Mastercard in the UK and 0.4 Avios per £1 elsewhere.

The balance transfer option is a great deal when Lloyds runs its occasional ‘no fee’ promotions.  You move as much money as you can, pay it off the same day and pocket a big pile of Avios!

Lloyds has been writing to some, but by no means all, cardholders over the last couple of months giving them the required 60 days notice of the changes.

This being Lloyds, of course, things have not gone to plan.

This is what seems to have happened:

Most (all, according to the call centre, but this is not true) Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express cards have been cancelled in the last few days

Whether or not you have had the letter giving you the legally required notice, many people have had their American Express card shut down

Your existing Mastercard and Amex may have started to incur foreign exchange charges

Lloyds has switched over the benefits of your existing Mastercard without replacing it.  A new card will follow in a few weeks, but it appears the terms have already changed.  Many readers are reporting 3% foreign exchange fees showing up online for overseas transactions made in the last week or so.

Your existing Mastercard is now earning Avios at the new higher rate of 0.4 Avios per £1

The fee refund on your existing card should be showing on your Lloyds online account

Many readers who are currently travelling have been taken by surprise by this switch.  There are two problems:

People who HAD received the letter from Lloyds Bank were assuming that their existing terms and conditions (ie no FX fees) applied until they received their new-look Mastercard.  This appears to NOT be the case.  The letter did NOT have a switchover date on it so there was no way that people could have known when FX charging and the Amex closure were due to kick in.

Many people whose Amex cards have been closed have not received the letter at all, which means that Lloyds Bank is not legally allowed to switch them over.  Comments yesterday on HFP suggest that telephone agents at Lloyds can even see that you have not received your letter as it would be showing on your file if sent.

I’m not sure what the next steps are from here, except to say that:

Be wary of leaving the house with just your Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express card, as it may not work

Be very wary of spending outside the UK on your existing Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard, because you may well incur FX fees

If you do incur FX fees for transactions on your old Mastercard, get on the phone to Lloyds Bank and insist on a refund

If you have not received the ’60 days notice’ letter from Lloyds Bank and your American Express card is dead and/or your Mastercard has started to incur FX fees, consider making a formal complaint against Lloyds Bank for breach of contract

Keep an eye on your letterbox for your new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard over the next few weeks

Let us know in the comments if you have anything to add to what we know so far.


How to earn Avios points from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (December 2021)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways BA Amex American Express card

British Airways American Express

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British Airways BA Premium Plus American Express Amex credit card

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

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You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points, such as:

Nectar American Express

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

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American Express Platinum card Amex

The Platinum Card from American Express

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You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies and has a 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus:

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express card

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Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

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Comments (200)

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  • Matthew says:

    I find this very interesting. I’ve just had my annual charge applied. Amex seems to be working, received no letter, or new card yet?

    Confused…yes!

  • Tim says:

    This one is confusing me and I wonder if Lloyds has had two different types of dual-card Avios-earning product. I’ve had my cards for longer than I can remember. They’ve never offered an upgrade voucher. I’ve never had to pay an annual fee. I’ve always incurred fees for spending aboard. So the exact opposite of the accounts they’re closing. I’ve not had any communications either.

  • Maisy75 says:

    I put €10,000 on my Lloyd’s AMEX last week and have incurred a transaction fee

  • Lady London says:

    Surely a letter saying something is happening on your card terms in the future but not giving a date of when, cannot be legally valid as fulfilling a notice condition??

    • Anna says:

      I think their rationale is that once you’ve had the letter, your 60 days’ notice period starts. However they have neglected to send out some of the letters (mine included) and don’t even appear to be aware of this. I’m hoping there will be so many complaints they’ll just start handing out extra upgrade vouchers again! I’ve had 5 so far in 2 years of membership, not to mention the cash compo.

      • Speedbird676 says:

        The letter explicitly says the new terms apply when you start using the new card.

  • John E says:

    After you raised it on here I switched to the BA American Express and have mostly been using that. I received the notification and once I had the new Mastercard I just chopped up my old cards and now use the Mastercard anywhere that doesn’t accept Amex. Somewhat annoying that they’ve changed but the BA Amex gave me the sign on bonus so all good. I don’t think I ever paid a fee as I was a legacy Lloyds TSB Rewards Amex holder (I think). Does that sound right to people?

  • Robert says:

    According to my source at Lloyds the free FX and AmEx came to an end on 5th May. Because we were all sent letters don’t expect any refunds, if you get one your in the lucky few. Do check your statements but I would recommend switching to Revolut or similar for free FX now.

    • Anna says:

      If you haven’t had a letter Lloyds are breaching their own Ts and Cs and will pretty much be obliged to give refunds. Lloyds have admitted that not all customers have been sent letters.

    • John B says:

      Your ‘source’ is what could best be described, a chancer!

  • Geoff says:

    I have not had a letter, but I used my Lloyds Amex last night for a $US transaction, which went through ok and is showing as pending in my account, so it still appears to be working for me.

    • Pgw says:

      Ditto. Whatever is happening looks to be inconsistent across Lloyds cardholders which is very much the norm with them.

    • Cwyfan says:

      My fx was added to my account 2 days after the transaction itself, so hold tight

  • James gaskin says:

    No letter for me either – will wait until I’m told otherwise…tapped in with Lloyd’s Amex this morn and was accepted !

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