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How Santiago shows up the disparities in Avios flight reward pricing – with taxes from £42 to £604

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On Saturday I ran an article on how and why you should book long-haul Avios Business Class redemptions on Iberia via Madrid.

I used New York as an example of how you can get great deals with Iberia (on some days, you’re comparing 68,000 Avios + £155 of taxes on Iberia from Madrid vs 120,000 Avios + £667 of taxes on BA from London!).

A reader recommended I take a look at Santiago in Chile as another example of huge pricing disparities.  This route is especially interesting because it also lets you compare a partner airline (LATAM) with very low taxes.

Let’s assume that you want to go to Chile.  Even if you DON’T want to go Chile, keep reading because the same principles apply to other Iberia routes such as the six in the USA, Tokyo, Shanghai, Johannesburg etc.

Option 1:  Fly British Airways direct from London to Santiago

Santiago is in Zone 8 on the British Airways Avios reward chart.  British Airways is being generous here, because the flight is 7,228 miles and it should technically be in Zone 9 and priced the same as Sydney!  You pay:

175,000 Avios + £588 of taxes off-peak (see screenshot below)

210,000 Avios + £588 of taxes peak

How to book Santiago with Avios

Option 2:  Fly Iberia direct from Madrid to Santiago, booked on ba.com

Even though we are booking this flight on ba.com, it still prices off the Iberia Avios reward chart because it is an Iberia flight.  Santiago is in Zone 7 on the Iberia Avios reward chart.  Iberia is also being generous here, because the flight is 6,649 miles and it should technically be in Zone 8.

102,000 Avios + £604 of taxes off-peak (see screenshot below)

150,000 Avios + £604 of taxes peak

You also need to add in the cost of getting to/from Madrid on a separate ticket.  You won’t save anything in taxes but the Avios saving is chunky.  However, don’t book this, because …..

How to book Santiago with Avios

Option 3:  Fly Iberia direct from Madrid to Santiago, booked on iberia.com

Let’s be clear here.  This is the IDENTICAL flight I just priced above in Option 2, except that I am booking it on the Iberia website instead of the British Airways one.

102,000 Avios + £162 of taxes off-peak (see screenshot below)

150,000 Avios + £162 of taxes peak

This is an astonishing saving of £442 per person in taxes and charges!  The ONLY difference is that you are booking the Iberia flight on iberia.com instead of ba.com.

How to book Santiago with Avios

Option 4:  Fly LATAM direct from Madrid to Santiago, booked on iberia.com

Finally, here is an option with a partner airline.  LATAM is a very respected airline and a oneworld alliance member, with a good business class product.  You can check out its website here.

This is what you pay to fly with LATAM.  Remember that, as a partner airline, all dates are priced as peak dates:

175,000 Avios + £42 (see screenshot below)

You also need to add in the cost of getting to/from Madrid on a separate ticket.  You also need to remember that this ticket is non-refundable because Iberia does not allow changes to redemptions on partner airlines outside BA and Iberia.

How to book Santiago with Avios

Which option is best?

As I said earlier, this article isn’t really about Santiago.  It is more about highlighting the huge differences in taxes and charges if you can fly with Iberia instead.

Of course, you can’t use a British Airways American Express 2-4-1 voucher on Iberia, LATAM or any other partners.  You will need to pay BA’s taxes and charges.

Even then …..

On a peak British Airways day, two people using a 2-4-1 voucher will be paying 210,000 Avios + £1,176 in taxes and charges to fly from Heathrow to Santiago.

If you DON’T use the voucher, you could either pay 350,000 Avios + £83 on the LATAM flight from Madrid to Santiago, or 300,000 Avios + £324 on the Iberia flight from Madrid.

I would see all three of those options are roughly equal, but of course you’d still have your 2-4-1 voucher for another BA trip.

PS.  How do you move Avios from British Airways Executive Club to Iberia Plus?

Here is a quick reminder of how it works:

You need an Iberia Plus account, which you can open at the Iberia website

Your Iberia Plus account MUST be 90 days before it will accept transfers

Your Iberia Plus account MUST have earned 1 Avios before it will accept transfers – the easiest option is moving 1,000 American Express points into it, but you could also credit a hotel stay or a BA or other partner flight or a car rental etc

In theory you can then use ‘Combine My Avios’ on ba.com to do the transfer

If you get error messages, you need to use avios.com as an intermediary.  Log in at avios.com, go to ‘Combine My Avios’, pull the Avios from BA and then push them to Iberia

If you no longer have an active avios.com account, go to this page of the Aer Lingus website and open an AerClub account.  You can log in to avios.com using those details.


How to earn Avios points from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (December 2021)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways BA Amex American Express card

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up, no annual fee and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending ….. Read our full review

British Airways BA Premium Plus American Express Amex credit card

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the UK’s most valuable credit card perk – the 2-4-1 companion voucher Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points, such as:

Nectar American Express

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & two airport lounge passes Read our full review

American Express Platinum card Amex

The Platinum Card from American Express

30,000 points and an unbeatable set of travel benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital On Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, along with a sign-up bonus worth 10,500 Avios:

Capital On Tap Business Rewards Visa

The most generous Avios Visa or Mastercard for a limited company Read our full review

You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies and has a 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus:

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express card

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

(Want to earn more Avios?  Click here to visit our home page for our latest articles on earning and spending your Avios points and click here to see how to earn more Avios this month from offers and promotions.)

Comments (72)

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  • Adam says:

    Also I have heard that LATAM provide Tier Points on redemption tickets.

    I can not say if this is 100% every time however I have received 90 Tier Points on my LATAM redemptions (To Brazil) every time and a google search suggests it is common.

    • Russ says:

      Was that in business class? I’ve never been able to find a Latam business class award seat on either BA or IB’s website.

      • Rob says:

        Something odd happens with BA. They seem to show and then they don’t show, from one minute to the next.

      • Adam says:

        Yes, Business Class but from Paris for the cheaper taxes

  • Joe Green says:

    Any recommendations for the best redemption for my BA 2 for 1 I want to fly economy or business for cheapest taxes return from LHR. I know about RFS but it doesn’t save a chunk of avios really.

    • marcw says:

      Your attitude is wrong. You should go to placer where you want to go. Then you have to figure out how best loyalty programs (Avios) fit in there.

      • Matt says:

        Agree that logic doesn’t make sense to me so can’t help with advice!

      • The Savage Squirrel says:

        This. Flying is still sitting in a steel tube in the sky. Might as well make it as affordable and as pleasant as possible but it’s still just a means to and end. The best business class seat on earth is about equivalent to a hostel (OK maybe the Residence is up to a Yotel); the best flight food ever is still equivalent to a very mediocre restaurant serving reheated pre-prepared food just with posh wine, If you’re really not bothered where you go then don’t fly at all, visit somewhere near where you live and have a nicer experience.

        • Evan says:

          This is so true. Makes me laugh when folk bang on about Qsuites etc. It’s really just like sitting in a cubicle in an open plan office watching netflix on your laptop.

        • Shoestring says:

          🙂

        • Shoestring says:

          heresy @Evan 🙂

    • Rob says:

      Moscow, £50 tax, mainly long haul planes

      • Alex says:

        Was about to say the same – Moscow – 17000 avios +£100 in Business if off peak. And from there you can get to Leningrad very easy.

        • Alex says:

          PS Even if it is not long haul plane , the business class seat will still be flat bed (it’s ex bmi A321 plane), that I like more than old BA seat.

    • joe green says:

      Maybe I phrased that wrong its by no means that I want a business flight experience. I have a few hundred thousand Avios and a 2 for 1 that expires this summer. Economy is fine for me. I don’t care where I fly because I am 32 and want to see the world so just working out where makes sense to go when i’m flying on a 2 for 1 and want to limit my taxes. My thinking is I want to spend as much avios as possible but as little hard earned cash.

      • marcw says:

        In that case,,,, forget about BA (excepto HKG to London). Search for Cathay Pacific, LATAM awards and IB awards from Spain. Malaysia Airlines could be iteresting as well, but availability is limited.

      • Grant says:

        You’d be better off using the paid version of http://www.rewardflightfinder.com and using the ‘I don’t know where I want to go’ tab. Fill in the details and it’ll show you reward availability with taxes and charges for a load of destinations.

        Also think about Ex INV and JER to save on APD. If you are Avios rich you could use some on a positioning flight.

    • Nick_C says:

      Look for a redemption heading East in First, back in Business.

      First Wing check in and Concorde Room at Heathrow. Free seat reservations outbound.

  • Richard M says:

    I have recently booked something similar to Tokyo travelling via Madrid. On the outbound, to avoid being clobbered for Business Class APD, I have booked the LON-MAD and MAD-TYO as separate sectors, with an overnight in MAD. On the return however, the difference in Taxes and fees is negligible and I have booked TYO-MAD-LON as one booking, cutting out the faff of collecting my baggage and checking in again, giving me a same evening arrival back in London instead of a second overnight in MAD

    • Dimitri says:

      To avoid this trouble, I just paid for one way from London and booked an avios flight back. Surprisingly I found the outbound one way with Virgin very cheap on a travel agent website.

  • JAXBA says:

    *Taxes, fees and charges (TFCs).

  • Prins Polo says:

    170k +£42 on LATAM is more though than 150k+£162 on Iberia (assuming 1p Avios valuation), not to mention off-peak pricing.

    • Rob says:

      Indeed, but some people have a different cash v miles valuation view. And LATAM availability is really good, I saw 6 business class seats on some flights.

  • Nic says:

    Have I gone bonkers is does the Iberia website not show any flights from MAD / BCN to anywhere in the USA at the moment? Trying to search for LAX/SFO routes and nothing in the US comes up at all.

  • Mark says:

    OT: Recently took a flight with Iberia Express, booked via iberia.com. I had put our BA executive club numbers on the booking, but didn’t get the Avios or the Tier Points and now I’ve got what appears to be automatic rejections when claiming through both routes.

    Is this worth arguing either way? I’d prefer them to be credited to our BA accounts just in case the Tier points end up making a difference. Looking back at a post that Rob did in January I can see that flights booked through Iberia Express won’t credit to BA, but these were booked through Iberia.com.

    • Leo says:

      Use the relevant FlyerTalk thread – there”s a BA contact on there who will help you out. Used to be BAMissingAvios or something like that. I’ve had Iberia Express pay out TPs when booked via Iberia. While back though.

  • Octopus says:

    Really? The first 1 didn’t work so I cancelled and wondered whether to try again. It seems that the T&C might have changed?

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