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American Express suspends its relationship with Curve Card, just 36 hours after launch

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Here’s something I didn’t see coming.  After launching with much fanfare on Monday, American Express suspended its relationship with Curve Card on Tuesday night.

This came just 36 hours after Amex functionality was launched to the public.  Amex cards had, however, been activated for a test group of Curve Card users for a few months before this.

(EDIT:  Curve has now published a lengthy blog post explaining how the split with American Express occurred.  I copied it into a separate article here.)

If you look on the Curve website, none of the cards are showing the option to link to American Express.  This means that the company is effectively back to the position it was in before Monday.

American Express sent me a statement last night which said:

American Express participated in a limited Curve beta test where we enabled a small number of Card Members to load funds onto an e-wallet using their Amex Card in the Curve app. Following this beta test we informed Curve that we would not participate in the further roll out of the Curve e-wallet.”

I spoke with Curve’s CEO early this morning and, whilst for legal reasons I don’t want to repeat what he said, he confirmed the position with American Express.

Curve has sent the following to users:

“We are extremely sorry that the top-up functionality for your Amex wallet is currently disabled.

Like thousands of other UK merchants, Curve has a valid merchant agreement to accept Amex payments into its e-wallet. However, on Tuesday evening, Amex decided to terminate this agreement and block all Amex transactions to Curve with immediate effect.

Amex has given no good or fair reason for their decision and we feel it is entirely disproportionate and discriminatory to Curve and all our (joint) customers. UK payment regulations clearly state that Curve should be allowed to access the Amex payment network on a level-playing field with every other fee-paying and legitimate merchant.

Rest assured that you can still spend the funds that you have already topped up to your existing Amex Wallets. If you have contacted us for support, we apologise for the delay in response and will endeavour to do so as soon as possible. We will update you as soon as we have any further information.

With our customers interests in mind, and our mission to deliver to you a truly innovative product, Curve intends to fight Amex’s decision with its full might. We believe financial freedom is the future and we are prepared to fight for yours.”

If there is any more news during the day I will drop it into this article.

TechCrunch has decent take on the subject here if you want to read more.  It is worth noting that the Amex statement given to TechCrunch – 18 hours after my statement – is a bit different:

“We participated in a limited Curve beta test in which we explored enabling Card Members to load funds onto an e-wallet using their Amex Card in the Curve app. A very small number of Amex Card Members participated in the test. Based on the results, we communicated to Curve that we would not participate in the further roll out of Curve because of concerns related to the overall American Express Card Member experience. Subsequently we terminated our contract with them.”

Curve will pay you £10 for trying it out if you use our link.

PS.  In a separate (or perhaps not entirely separate) note, payment company Billhop – we covered Billhop here – sent the following email to users yesterday:

“Due to guidelines from American Express you will no longer be able to make payments to private accounts with an American Express card regardless if the purpose of the payment is related to a business transaction. This change will come into effect on the 7th of February 2019.

You will still be able to use a MasterCard and/or VISA card for transactions to private accounts relating to business transactions including, but not limited to, payroll, housekeeping, rent, nanny services, etc.

Please note that peer-to-peer remittance is still not allowed regardless of card.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you.”

Note that this only covers payments to sole traders.  You can continue to use Amex via Billhop to pay a company, local authority, HMRC etc.


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Comments (792)

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  • Mikeact says:

    I suppose it’s sensible to go out and buy gift vouchers today, to run down my Amex balance.

    • Go says:

      I wouldn’t leave any balance on curve. Just cleared every penny from mine

      • Jonathan says:

        How do you get the Amex balance out of the curve wallet

        • Alan says:

          Spend it?

        • Alex Sm says:

          Someone here advised topping up Amazon etc – I am going to do now as I discovered that AMEX didn’t process my payment to Curve while the monies DID move over and I have spent almost all of it already

    • Graham Walsh says:

      Thankfully I’ve got £40 odd across both my Amex cards e-wallet.

    • Bonglim says:

      I think very sensible, especially if you have a large balance.
      If it goes to the wall, you will just be in a line of many many unsecured creditors.

  • Ian G says:

    Subscribed to Curve Metal last night with the aim of linking up with AMEX and read this, this morning- bit miffed if this is permanent. I wonder if I can get my money back if I cancel the card?

  • Alex says:

    I predict 500+ comments by the end of the day (if you count this one).

    • TheSkintTraveller says:

      If anything comes out of this, people were able to pay off large bills like HMRC using Amex for free when they get their metal fees refunded soon (let’s hope)..

    • Grant says:

      Agreed. If Monday’s launch announcement broke records for the number of interactions with HFP then today will break those records again.

  • Big Dave says:

    I have a feeling that curve jumped the gun with the launch after the beta testing on purpose (and possible agreed to with amex) with the premise of purely attracting new users in order to retain some of them and keep afloat…. the future doesn’t look good

  • Graham Walsh says:

    I can just imaging the number of BA Amex 241 vouchers being issued in the next few weeks too might cause some concern.

    • shd says:

      BA will happy to see 241 vouchers fly out of the door, they’re *making money* on every redemption, not losing it.

  • Trevor says:

    Well that was a wasted effort. I quite fancied the Amex feature and signed up for the free card last night and it accepted the Amex card. I wondered why it wouldn’t top up this morning. No use now really as I have points earning on other Mastercards. Be interested to see what shakes out and I agree with another poster, how the Hell wasn’t this a watertight agreement? You would think that Amex would not be able to step away so soon…

  • Marcw says:

    Booooooommmmmmm!!!! I saw this coming…. It’s all about the hype! Everything else is just BS. And it turned out, it was TOTAL BS!!! Booooooommmmmmm!!!!! Good luck to Curve!

    • Genghis says:

      Ok Heavy D

    • Am says:

      Easy to be wise after the act. Boooom there was no comment from you before mentioning it. All the people that will use AMEX will carry on using them. Its amex trying to flex their muscle.

      I don’t use amex but I can’t see it lasting in its current form. Shame really.

      • marcw says:

        Yes there is… but you have to go back a few months ago, and you will find my comment in a Curve article about “total BS”.

  • Sebastian says:

    Upgraded to metal on Monday evening – purely because Amex was now back – I hadn’t used curve for months otherwise. Will be asking for my annual fee back from them.

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