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New year, new credit card? Learn which Amex cards you can get, based on the cards you have

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We don’t do very many ‘first principles’ articles on Head for Points.  However, I ran a version of this article a year ago and it was very popular.  More importantly, I’ve ended up emailing the link to at least one reader per day since then so I know it is a key topic.

Many of us will be taking advantage of the New Year to make a fresh start on their loyalty credit card strategy.  A lot of people do not fully understand the rules on what American Express sign-up bonuses they can get, which might mean that you are missing out on some free points and miles.

IMPORTANT:  Following changes to the American Express sign-up bonus rules in March 2019, this article is now out of date and you should not rely on it.  Please click here to read an article outlining the new Amex bonus rules.

The question we are looking at is:  what are the rules regarding earning a sign-up bonus when you take out an American Express credit or charge card?

The simple answer is:  you will receive a bonus (subject to hitting the qualifying spend target) if you do not have, or have not had in the last six months, an Amex card which earns the same rewards currency.

Let’s look into this more closely.

The rule does not relate to just the card you are applying for.  It also applies to cards which offer the same kind of reward.

For the cards we cover on Head for Points, the main rewards currencies are:

Cards which offer Membership Rewards points

Cards which offer Avios

Cards which offer Marriott Rewards points

Cards which offer Nectar points

Here are a few points you should note:

To clarify, you cannot get a sign-up bonus on a card if you have had another card in the same ‘family’ above in the last six months.  If you have or recently had an Amex Platinum, you cannot get a bonus if you apply for an Amex Gold, for example.  There are NO restrictions on you getting a British Airways, Starwood or Nectar card as they belong to a different ‘family’ on my list.

The six months rule only applies to cards on which you were the primary cardholder.  Being a supplementary cardholder on someone else’s American Express card does not matter.  If you are currently a supplementary cardholder on your partners BA Amex, for example, you WILL still get a bonus if you apply for your own BA or BA Premium Plus Amex.

Cards which are not issued directly by Amex have no impact on this discussion.  If you only have the Lloyds Bank Avios credit card, you WILL still get the bonus on either of the two British Airways American Express cards or any other card listed above.

Just because you have previously converted Membership Rewards points into Avios, Starwood or Nectar does NOT block you from the bonus on the dedicated British Airways, Starwood or Nectar American Express cards.  A lot of people are confused about this in my experience.

More importantly – and a common mistake – you cannot get a bonus on a Gold Business or Platinum Business card if you have or recently had a personal Gold, Green, Platinum etc.  This is because a company cannot have a Membership Rewards account, only an individual.  The Membership Rewards account for a Gold Business or Platinum Business is in the personal name of the individual who applies and so the standard rules apply.

You cannot have both the free British Airways credit card and the paid British Airways Premium Plus credit card.  Upgrading or downgrading between the free and paid BA cards will not trigger a bonus because you will have had an Avios-earning card in the last six months.

Similarly, if you switch from Platinum to Gold or vice versa (although you can have both) you will not receive a bonus on the new card  You should also note that you do not get your first year of Gold free if you downgrade from Platinum – the £140 kicks in immediately.

You can apply for the Starwood Preferred Guest Amex – and gets its generous sign-up bonus – irrespective of what other Amex cards you have.  The only no-no would be if you have cancelled an SPG card in the last six months.  The bonus is 30,000 Marriott / Starwood points which is worth roughly £150 of free hotel stays or 10,000 Avios or other airline miles.

Similarly, you can apply for the Nectar Amex – and gets its generous sign-up bonus of 20,000 Nectar points, worth at least £100 – irrespective of what other Amex cards you have.  The only no-no would be if you have cancelled a Nectar Amex card in the last six months.  This card is free for the first year.

I hope you found this helpful in clarifying any confusion.  Please post any further questions in the comments – I will add the best ones back into this main article.

If you want to know more about any of the cards above, here are my reviews:

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold reviewAmerican Express Platinum reviewAmerican Express Rewards (ARCC) reviewBritish Airways American Express (BA Amex) reviewBritish Airways Premium Plus American Express (BAPP Amex) review, Nectar Amex reviewStarwood Preferred Guest (SPG Amex)

I also look at Amex Gold Business here and Amex Platinum Business here.


Want to earn more points from credit cards? – December 2021 update

If you are looking to apply for a new credit or charge card, here are our November 2021 recommendations based on the current sign-up bonus

You can see our full directory of all UK cards which earn airline or hotel points here. Here are the top current deals:

British Airways BA Amex American Express card

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up, no annual fee and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending ….. Read our full review

British Airways BA Premium Plus American Express Amex credit card

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the UK’s most valuable credit card perk – the 2-4-1 companion voucher Read our full review

Nectar American Express

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & two airport lounge passes Read our full review

American Express Platinum card Amex

The Platinum Card from American Express

30,000 points and an unbeatable set of travel benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Earning miles and points from small business cards

If you are a sole trader or run a small company, you may also want to check out these offers.

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and free for a year Read our full review

Amex Platinum Business American Express

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and a long list of travel benefits Read our full review

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express card

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

Capital On Tap Business Rewards Visa

The most generous Avios Visa or Mastercard for a limited company Read our full review

For a non-American Express option, we also recommend the Barclaycard Select Cashback card for sole traders and small businesses. It is FREE and you receive 1% cashback on your spending:

Barclaycard Select Cashback Credit Card

1% cashback and no annual fee Read our full review

Comments (275)

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  • Andy Morgan says:

    Can you help Genghis?

    I have an Amex personal gold credit card, and would like to apply for Amex business platinum charge card for the great sign up bonus. However, I assumed I wouldn’t get the bonus due to having the gold card. Have just spoken to Amex and they said technically as my business will be applying for the platinum card, rather than me as an individual, then the sign up bonus should still apply. Can anyone else confirm or deny this before I apply?

    • TGLoyalty says:

      The rules say you shouldn’t get the bonus.

      However, if you have verbal or written confirmation from AMEX you will, all calls are recorded so note exact time and date, then you could argue that they should pay out as its been offered. You may of course need to fight for the points when they don’t automatically post.

    • Rob says:

      Amex is wrong. Many readers have been stung on this before (some also got away with it, but they are a minority and that requires Amex to not realise you already have an account).

      • Andy Morgan says:

        Yep, Rob’s right. Just double-checked with Amex Corporate, and I’m not eligible. So gold card just been cancelled and I’ll apply in 6 months.

  • Antony says:

    Genghis

    Can you please share any Excel churning template if you have any?

    Cheers

    • Mike says:

      ohhhh yes please

    • Genghis says:

      Sorry, not willing to share. It’s simple to build your own, however, driven off how much you spend (use historical data as a proxy), which then drives fees and how long it takes to do things.

      • PC illiterate says:

        So ‘simple’ most won’t even begin to try! (thats their fault I hear you say!)

    • Mark2 says:

      What I use is:
      column A: name of card
      column B: holder
      column C date cancelled from letter
      column D: six months later (can be a formula but CBA)

      After the first cycle it manages itself

  • Craig says:

    Does the 6 month wait also reset the ability to get the 241 voucher?

  • Gerry H says:

    Rob, good article.
    I am coming towards the end of my first year with Amex Gold Preferred Rewards card. I have spent over £15k on it.
    My wife is a supplementary card holder.
    If she applies for a card in her own right, does she receive the sign-up bonus and free year 1 membership? Would she need to exit my card as supp. before applying?
    If I then cancel my membership in month 2 of 2nd year, can I then become her supplementary card holder? And we do this each year, not paying an annual fee (apart from a pro-rata month or two? And spending similar amounts.
    Is there something I have missed here?

    Before I cancel any card, I need to transfer out my rewards into whatever other scheme etc? Is that correct?

    • TripRep says:

      Gerry pretty much yes to all of that, obvs your wife should sign up using your referral link.

    • Benilyn says:

      does she receive the sign-up bonus – yes
      and free year 1 membership? – yes
      Would she need to exit my card as supp. before applying? – no

      Being supp doesn’t have any impact on signing up as main account holder.

    • Sean says:

      Is there something I have missed here?

      Yes – why wait for a full year:

      You apply month 1 – meet spend by month 2 – cancel card month 3 after receiving referral bonus
      Refer Wife in Month 2 – meet spend by month 6 – cancels in month 10 (so can refer you month 9)
      Wife refers you month 9 – meet spend by month 11. (refer wife month 16 etc…)
      Add and cancel supps as required

      So within 12 months you have received 3 sign up bonuses, 2 referral bonuses and any supplementary bonuses.

      • Danny says:

        Sean, I take it that you transfer the AMEX Membership Reward points to another programme like Avios/Singapore Airlines etc before cancelling the card?

    • Mark2 says:

      Also do not request supplementary on initial application as you can usually get 3,000 MR on later request.

      and you can refer each other for other cards e.g. SPG

      • Rob Walker says:

        Recently with my wife’s new Platinum account, we received 5k MR for adding another supplementary cardholder despite already having added one at the time of application. They also sent the card to my home address despite the supp not living at my address.So always worth finding someone else to add even if you’ve added your partner at time of application.

  • TripRep says:

    Another basic referral Q….

    Can you still refer from a BAPP 241 Amex to a Amex Gold MR card?

    Does the BA card get 9k Avios for doing so?

    • Grant says:

      Yes and yes. You can (I think) pretty much refer from any Amex card to any other Amex card.

    • Nick_C says:

      Yes and yes

    • kevbar says:

      In November I tried to self refer from BAPP to Platinum but it was not possible, there were no options to ‘View Other Cards’ and only BA cards displayed.

      • Polly says:

        Amex play a bit with this referral thingy. Sometimes, the view other cards works, sometimes it doesn’t…

        • Sam says:

          Also it looks like firefox and chrome blocks the other cards button, Edge/Internet Explorer works best

  • Dipesh Kataria says:

    I have had instances where Amex have denied me a sign up bonus as they said I was gaming their system. I had an amex gold, cancelled and waited 7 months, and then applied again. The representative from Amex said all bonus are chosen at their discretion.

    • Bazza says:

      If you do not put spend through the card it can happen. Be careful with yiur credit score when you card applications get refused.

  • Jon says:

    Are there any significant differences between a personal and business cards? As a sole trade I have the choice of either for my next application (I use Amex only for business spend) I recall reading on HfP in the mists of time that the travel insurance on the business plat’ card was superior???

  • GoldmanSachs says:

    OT – Does downgrading BAPP to normal BA blue card require a credit check?

    • Genghis says:

      Amex reserve the right to. Some have reported a search.

      • Mark says:

        I’ve only ever had one search from amex in 5 years (for my first card) is that pretty normal?

      • GoldmanSachs says:

        Genghis comes to the rescue again

        I have never downgraded any product but I am now in a position to. Do you put through usual application on the website or call them up? assuming they will ask for same information as a normal application, then reserve the right to do a hard credit check

        • Benylin says:

          Call them, I did it over the phone

        • TGLoyalty says:

          Honestly, Why?

          If you have the 2-4-1 voucher just cancel and churn in 6 months or so for a new bonus?

          If you need to hold an AMEX card then refer yourself for one of the others?

        • Genghis says:

          I wouldn’t bother downgrading. Just cancel.

        • GoldmanSachs says:

          Part of me wants to keep the 30k limit, but i agree, will look at cancelling too.

          But as usual – thanks all

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