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Curve Card is now working with American Express for beta testers – this is how it works

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(EDIT:  Curve has changed a lot since this article was published.  Please do not rely on the information here.  Instead, please click here to read our detailed 2020 Curve review, which includes a link for a free £10 credit when you sign up.)

Curve Card is an all-in-one payment wallet and aggregator that is popular amongst Head for Points readersI describe Curve in detail here, but in summary:

Curve Card (a debit Mastercard) is free – in fact Curve will pay you £10 for trying it out if you use our link

You can link any other Visa or Mastercard to Curve – so the smart thing to do is to link a miles or points earning card

You can pay DEBIT card bills with Curve which are recharged to your linked Visa or Mastercard.  Importantly, this recharge goes through as a purchase and so earns miles and points on the underlying card.

You can withdraw £200 of cash per month at an ATM for free and it will be recharged to your underlying Visa or Mastercard as a purchase, earning miles and points (unless you have a credit card from Tesco Bank, which treats Curve ATM transactions as cash)

You pay ZERO FX fees when using your Curve Card for overseas spending (Mon-Fri, a 0.5% loading applies at weekends).  This effectively turns ANY Visa or Mastercard into a ‘no FX fees’ credit card.  There is a £500 per month ‘no FX fees’ limit on the free Curve Blue card and a £15,000 annual limit on the £50 Curve Black card.

As you can see, there is lots of interesting stuff here that can both save you money on FX fees and earn you miles and points too.

Curve is about to allow American Express cards to be linked to the card.  This will have a number of advantages:

You can pay with American Express anywhere, even at shops which don’t allow American Express, by using your Curve Mastercard linked to your Amex

You can pay with American Express at places which only accept debit cards, by using your Curve Mastercard linked to your Amex

You can spend abroad on American Express without incurring FX fees, by using your Curve Mastercard linked to your Amex (up to £500 per month on the free Curve version)

Amex payments are currently operating via a Beta programme with a small number of Curve users.

In summary:

Amex functionality is a little different.  You will have an e-wallet enabled in your Curve app.  You need to pre-load this with funds from your linked American Express card.  The T&Cs say that eventually the top-up will be automated, so that you don’t need to manually load funds – as soon as you make a £100 Curve purchase, for example, Curve will automatically top-up your e-wallet and authorise the transaction.  

Amex use is not free.  Holders of the free Blue Curve card will pay 0.65% on all American Express transactions.  Holders of the £50 Black Curve will get £1,000 of American Express payments for free each month, with a fee of 0.65% thereafter.

All UK personal American Express cards are accepted as far as I can tell.  This includes charge (Platinum), BA, SPG etc.  This is a surprise as I understood that only the co-brand cards – which have had their fees capped under EU legislation – were going to participate.

Is it worth paying 0.65% for American Express acceptance?

Oddly, there is not a straight answer here.

If you have Curve Black then, whilst you are spending your £1,000 of free Amex allowance per month, it is clearly a good deal.  Beyond that, or for all Curve Blue customers, it is a bit different.

On the face of it, you might say:

“I am paying 0.65p per £1 recharged to my free BA Amex to earn 1 Avios, and 0.65p is a bargain”, or

“I am paying 0.65p per £1 recharged to my BA Premium Plus Amex to earn 1.5 Avios, and 0.43p per Avios is a great bargain”, or

“I am paying 0.65p per £1 recharged to my SPG Amex to earn 3 Starwood / Marriott points, and 0.22p per Starwood / Marriott points is a great bargain”

However ….

There is also an opportunity cost because you could have used a Visa or Mastercard for free.  You could for example:

Link a Virgin Atlantic Reward+ Mastercard to Curve, earn 1.5 Virgin miles per £1 and pay no transaction fee, or

Link a BA Premium Plus American Express to Curve, earn 1.5 Avios per £1 and pay 0.65% transaction fee

Your American Express acceptance cost is therefore 0.65% PLUS whatever rewards you would have got for free linking your highest earning Visa or Mastercard instead.

There are very few ‘super generous’ Visa or Mastercard products available however, so unless you have one of the new Virgin Atlantic cards or the IHG Rewards Club Premium Mastercard then paying for Amex acceptance via Curve is likely to be your best bet.

Of course, if ‘manufacturing’ American Express spend via Curve Card makes it easier to hit the 2-4-1 voucher on your British Airways American Express card, or hit the sign-up bonus on a new Amex, or hit the 10000 points annual bonus for spending £15000 on American Express Preferred Rewards Gold, then the maths changes again. Using Amex via Curve is likely to be an excellent way of ensuring that you hit these targets.

Most Head for Points readers WILL get a lot of benefit from linking their American Express card to Curve.

When can I get it?

I don’t know.  The Beta programme launched last week for those who were invited.  The rest of us will have to wait a while.

It is also worth noting that Curve is planning to replace the existing Black card with two new products, each of which will carry a monthly fee but will come with a far wider range of benefits than you receive now.  I am not sure how existing Black cardholders will be migrated.

There is certainly no harm in getting yourself the free Curve Blue card now.  You can enjoy all of the benefits I outlined at the top of the page whilst waiting for Amex acceptance to roll out. Curve will pay you £10 for trying it out if you use our link.


Want to earn more points from credit cards? – December 2021 update

If you are looking to apply for a new credit or charge card, here are our November 2021 recommendations based on the current sign-up bonus

You can see our full directory of all UK cards which earn airline or hotel points here. Here are the top current deals:

British Airways BA Amex American Express card

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up, no annual fee and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending ….. Read our full review

British Airways BA Premium Plus American Express Amex credit card

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the UK’s most valuable credit card perk – the 2-4-1 companion voucher Read our full review

Nectar American Express

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & two airport lounge passes Read our full review

American Express Platinum card Amex

The Platinum Card from American Express

30,000 points and an unbeatable set of travel benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Earning miles and points from small business cards

If you are a sole trader or run a small company, you may also want to check out these offers.

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and free for a year Read our full review

Amex Platinum Business American Express

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and a long list of travel benefits Read our full review

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express card

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

Capital On Tap Business Rewards Visa

The most generous Avios Visa or Mastercard for a limited company Read our full review

For a non-American Express option, we also recommend the Barclaycard Select Cashback card for sole traders and small businesses. It is FREE and you receive 1% cashback on your spending:

Barclaycard Select Cashback Credit Card

1% cashback and no annual fee Read our full review

Comments (271)

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  • Sandra Crawford says:

    Can I ask what you mean by pay a Debit card bill? Surely Debit card payments deduct the money directly from your current account therefore you don’t actually get a bill to pay.

  • Nicholas Markwell says:

    Does anyone know whether a Curve ATM cash withdrawal will be treated as such by Virgin Atlantic?

  • JJ says:

    I think I’ll give Curve a swerve for now. Would anyone be kind enough to remind me how to pay HMRC and earn points. Was it a Tesco bank debit card? TIA

    • Martin says:

      Go through Co op with Amex or Bill hop

      • Thomas Howard says:

        How do I pay HMRC via Co-Op?

        • Polly says:

          You can’t. It’s Bill hop, see robs article. Or Tesco debit card, or any other points earning debit card. Or by curve linked to your points earning card.
          Co op is for using amex to pay utility bills, gas, electrics, tv licence, bt, council tax with bar code etc etc, that don’t accept amex directly. But if you get a pay point card from your supplier, you can then pay the bill, or an amount towards it, with your amex at a co op store. Not sky tho!
          Bear in mind some co ops are independent, and won’t take amex, but most do.

        • Shoestring says:

          Many Texacos allow Amex—> Paypoint—> Council Tax etc

  • Richard G says:

    I can’t remember if I paid for my card or not. Anyone know how to check in the app / online what one I have? It’s literally black, but I have no idea if that means anything.

  • Leo says:

    Unless I’ve misunderstood – Curve is still a great way to pay your tax bills (No problem paying my VAT last month). This means I will now take out a BAPP, use that for HMRC payments of 10K pay £65 blue curve fee and get my 2-4-1?

    • Anna says:

      That’s what it seems to be saying, though the 10k would be part of your Curve spend limit. I don’t know if there’s a limit on individual transaction size either.

      • Leo says:

        Neither of which is a problem – only question for me is do I want a 2-4-1 more than I want 20K IHG points towards Spire.

      • Richard G says:

        You can pay your tax in chunks anyway, so no need to worry about the individual transaction size. Just takes a bit more time.

    • Rob says:

      You’d need to wait for Amex to come off Beta and be available to all Curve users.

    • Nate1309 says:

      This is exactly what i plan on doing. Take out BAPP every november use it for shop small, the first 3x£1000 top ups fee free 30 days apart, then the final £7000 cost me £45.50. BAPP cost £48.75. So for less than £100 will have 41000 avios and a 241 voucher.
      I am on the Beta test app, it takes seconds to load from your amex card. I have not spent any of it yet just topped up the £1000 to start the 30 rolling free limit.

      • Michal says:

        Maybe I am wrong but I believe It is monthly limit and no 30 days rolling limit. Well see on 1st of December 😉

        • Genghis says:

          From Curve in the Beta group re Amex top ups
          “The limits are on a rolling 30 days for the monthly limit and 365 days for yearly and start from the date of the the first transaction. They are not connected to the calendar month or year.”

    • Yuff says:

      Do HMRC still charge a fee for using curve?

    • Polly says:

      Perfect plan…and pro rata fee refunded…

  • Timbo says:

    So, when we top up the card balance from our Amex in advance, presumably a generic MCC is reported back to Amex. It will be very interesting to see what we are subsequently allowed to use that balance for. If, for example, it could be used to pay for Brighton-based Business Services, then things are about to get very interesting indeed.

  • Genghis says:

    But the reward could be 1.5p

    • Heran says:

      Yes depends on which Amex card you have.

    • Joe says:

      But it could be on Mastercard too!

      • Genghis says:

        As I posted the other day, I still think there are examples for Curve blue for ongoing spend where this could be useful, depending on the flavour of points you want to collect. No good for VFC, I agree.

  • Nate1309 says:

    That is true. But what if it is used to chase a sign up bonus, 241, or the yearly 10000 bonus on GCC?

    • Heran says:

      It depends on the personal situation. I can achieve these spending threshold anyway, with or without linking to Curve, so it doesn’t matter to me…

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