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LOTS of American Airlines business class seats between London and the US bookable for Avios

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American Airlines now has a very good business class product on its London to New York route

It is a herringbone layout and looks like this:

…. on the new Boeing 777-300ER (77W in AA parlance) and:

….. on refurbished older Boeing 777-200 (772 in AA speak) aircraft.

Those of you of a certain age will know that the US airlines used to have laughable business class products.  American has now not only caught up but, in terms of Club World, overtaken.

The reason I’ve never reviewed the new seat is that American is incredibly stingy at opening up reward seats.  On Tuesday, however, it opened up huge chunks of space from New York and selected other destinations to London (and other European cities) for much of 2018.

This is good news because, as a British Airways partner, you can book these seats using Avios.

How to find American Airlines business class availability

The easiest way to search is at americanairlines.com even though you will be booking via ba.com using Avios.

On the AA home page, open the ‘Advanced Search’ box.  Scroll down and ensure you’ve got ‘MilesAAver’ and ‘Business’ and ‘American Airlines’ selected under ‘Options’.  Make sure you have ‘Book Using Miles’ selected.

On the results page, select ‘Business / First MilesAAver’ and ‘Full Calendar’.

This is what you see for April as at 10pm last night to New York from Heathrow (click to enlarge):

…. and from New York to Heathrow:

You want days showing 57,500 miles seats.  Click through and make sure that the flight offered is direct.  The 77W flights on new Boeing 777-300ER aircraft are the ones to go for, if reputation is anything to go by, but a similar seat is on the 772 (Boeing 777-200) aircraft which also fly the route.

Go over to ba.com, plug in the same dates and the same flights will show.

For clarity …. you do NOT pay 57,500 miles.  That is the price if you have AA miles.  You will pay 60,000 Avios each way which is the peak day one-way cost of an Avios redemption to New York.  All American Airlines flights are charged at peak day pricing.  You cannot use a British Airways American Express 2-4-1 voucher.

Other routes are also showing good availability

Reports on US frequent flyer sites suggest similarly good availability from Los Angeles, Charlotte and Raleigh to London.  Other AA hubs such as Miami, Philadelphia and Chicago are not so open.

I did NOT see much availability – although there is some – on American’s other routes to the UK:

Edinburgh to New York (Summer only)

Glasgow to Philadelphia (Summer only)

Manchester to Chicago

Manchester to Philadelphia

Let’s talk taxes

To be honest, if you have any oneworld miles except Avios then use those instead.  In almost all case you won’t pay any surcharges, because AA doesn’t actually add surcharges.  However, if you book with Avios, BA adds on a surcharge (which it pockets) in order to equalise the taxes between the BA and AA services across the Atlantic.

This is why a return flight on AA to New York comes with $300 of taxes compared with £500+ if you book exactly the same flight with Avios via BA.

If you only have Avios, of course, it is a moot point!

Hopefully the availability will still be there when you read this on Wednesday morning for anyone who wants to give the American Airlines business class product a try to the US.


How to earn Avios points from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (December 2021)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways BA Amex American Express card

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British Airways BA Premium Plus American Express Amex credit card

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the UK’s most valuable credit card perk – the 2-4-1 companion voucher Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points, such as:

Nectar American Express

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

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The Platinum Card from American Express

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We recommend Capital On Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, along with a sign-up bonus worth 10,500 Avios:

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You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies and has a 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus:

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Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

(Want to earn more Avios?  Click here to visit our home page for our latest articles on earning and spending your Avios points and click here to see how to earn more Avios this month from offers and promotions.)

Comments (65)

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  • Robbie says:

    I assume you can book via Iberia as well? Are their Taxes and Charges any better?

    • Rob says:

      Don’t think so – and I am not sure if AA redemptions via IB can be cancelled or changed. Oneworld airline bookings are non refundable but I don’t know if AA is exempt due to the transatlantic JV.

      • Lumma says:

        Does AA even show up on Iberia.com? I cant ever remember seeing it show up as an option when searching for flights to the USA on there.

        • Robbie says:

          I hate the Iberia website – Even if I am buying Iberia I would rather buy on ba.com it feels like everything on Ib.com is created to make it hard for the customers. BA have a lot of issues but I do rate their web journey.

  • Talay says:

    Is there not a legal case to be made against BA for overcharging versus the AA example ?

    Hard to argue when it is just BA metal but against another carrier, the taxes element is removed and you have a fee imposed which arguably reduces the value of the Avios you earned ?

    Similar argument with the 241 Amex. 2 x taxes I understand, to a degree, though you have not “bought” the 2nd ticket, but 2 x fees ?

    • Andrew says:

      Why would there be a legal case? A tin of Heinz baked beans is more expensive in Waitrose compared to Lidl. You wouldn’t expect to be able to sue Waitrose for the difference.

      • shd says:

        How about if Waitrose labelled the beans prominently with the Lidl price on the shelf…

        …but slapped a big “manufacturer surcharge” on top at the checkout…

        …but hid this in the VAT section of the receipt…

        …*and* then kept the “manufacturer surcharge” for themselves… ?

        • Andrew says:

          But BA don’t advertise the same price as AA. The same flight costs a different number of ‘miles’ in a different ‘currency’. I don’t like BA’s policy of charging extra fees on top of reward seats but not everything’s a lawsuit. Everything’s made clear before you press the ‘pay now’ button.

  • Louise says:

    OT but regarding taxes, I just redeemed for Tallinn and checked booking as one ways and yes – taxes back were £12 instead of £50 (Club Europe) thanks for the tip Rob!

  • Geoff says:

    Basic question – why do you ‘want days showing 57,500 miles seats’? What are the others in grey eg 30k?

    Also, I can get an availability chart on AA as shown, but not all of the flights show up on BA.

    • lumma says:

      The 30k dates are economy flights but on this example the Business SAAver filter has been selected so they’ve been greyed out

    • Rob says:

      Those 30k seats are economy seats on days when there is no business space at 57,500 miles.

      If it shows as MilesAAver on AA and it is a non-stop flight then BA can book it. If there is a connection involved with AA then BA may not be able to book it due to married segment issues with AA.

  • lumma says:

    Aren’t there reports of the 777-200 seats (the ones with the rear facing seating in the second photo) moving around when the person next to you moves?

    • Sarah says:

      I didn’t find that to be any worse than with the CW seat where you get exactly the same thing. I thought those seats were perfectly fine, but the other version of the 777-200 is much better

      • Geoff says:

        I’ve got an AA trip coming up with flat beds on 330, 757 and 321 so it will interesting to compare all of those against each other and against BA CW. Mind you, based on HFP reviews and comments, I have even higher hopes for the QR business holiday trip coming up!

        • shd says:

          What QR aircraft are you travelling on?

        • Geoff says:

          No reply link on your post for some reason shd – but new and old. Nice new 787 and older 777. I guess ‘high hopes’ was not the right terminology – I know what to expect, I should have said ‘looking forward to’ – although maybe not the 17hr flight. But at least it should be in comfort.

    • Rob says:

      Yes, they vibrate because of the way they are constructed, basically two seats in one.

  • Richmond says:

    There’s def. some availability on AA LAX-LHR last minute. I’m looking for a flight next week and stumbled upon some business class seats. However taxes are quite high for one way ticket.

    Actually BA taxes for economy redemption from USA to UK, cost almost the same as basic Norwegian one way ticket.

  • JohnW says:

    Are these good seats only on the New York to Heathrow route? i.e. they haven’t fitted these seats to Miami for example?

    • Nick_C says:

      You certainly get them on the Miami route which uses the 77W. The A330s (former US Airways) are very similar, and the J cabin on good is very private as its forward off the entrance door, so you don’t get Y passengers traipsing through when boarding. No F on the A330.

  • Paul says:

    It’s good to see that people things the latest AA business seat is good….

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