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EXCLUSIVE: Launch information for Club Europe on British Airways domestic flights

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I’ve managed to get my hands on the launch date and operational details of the changes to British Airways domestic flights.  As was first flagged in a BA investor presentation last year, domestic flights are going to be split into a two cabin service.

This is what is going to happen.

The launch date for Club Europe and Euro Traveller on domestic flights is 1st April.

Club Europe British Airways

From this date, UK domestic flights (excluding Jersey, which already has Club Europe) will begin operating with a two-class cabin.  For those sat at the front, it will be an identical offering to what is offered on ‘Band 1 / Very Short’ Club Europe services at present, such as flights to Paris, Dublin or Amsterdam.

The launch of ‘domestic Club Europe’ is almost certainly linked to the introduction of ‘buy on board’ catering last month.  BA’s biggest nightmare is that someone paying £7,670 for a fully flexible Club World ticket from Edinburgh to Tokyo decides to switch to a Middle East carrier or KLM because they are insulted at paying £2.30 for a cup of coffee on the connection.

This is an easy change to implement.  At present, BA sells a product called ‘Business UK’ which is a fully flexible domestic economy ticket.  If you buy one of these you get lounge access, fast track security and 20 tier points each way but no seating benefits – it is still 3 x 3.

Bringing in Club Europe only requires ‘middle seat’ blocking and the loading of a few Club Europe meals – there is minimal capital investment apart from some IT and website changes.

British Airways club europe domestic flights

This is what is going to happen to your existing bookings:

Is your current flight booked in classes B, H, K, M, L, V, N, Q O, S, G or X?

You will be seated in Euro Traveller.

Nothing else changes although you will lose any seat allocation you currently have at the front of the aircraft.  If you paid for a seat reservation, you can either ask for a refund or move to a reserved seat elsewhere.

Food and drink will remain ‘buy on board’ except for services from London City which will retain free catering for a few more months.

You will receive the same Avios and tier points as you were originally due.

Is your current flight booked in classes C, D, J, Y, R, I or U?

You will be seated in Club Europe.

You will gain access to the standard Club Europe benefits which were not previously part of your ticket – unless you had a Business UK ticket, in which case you would have already got lounge access, fast track security and priority boarding.

These benefits include – where available – 2 x 32kg checked bags, dedicated check-in, priority boarding, fast track security, lounge access, a blocked middle seat and free food and drink.

If you paid for a seat reservation, you can either ask for a refund or move to a reserved seat elsewhere.  If you paid for an extra baggage allowance, this will be refunded.

The tier point situation is not yet fully clear.  I will let you know if I get clarification.

There is clear upside here for those travelling on Club World Avios redemptions from regional airports as the connections will book into Club Europe.  It might even make the prospect of changing planes in Heathrow a little more appealing.

Another upside is that the minimum number of Avios seats per domestic flight would increase from the current four to six, as there would be a minimum of two Club Europe seats released as well.

There is also clear downside for travellers who can buy fully flexible economy tickets (Business UK) under their corporate travel policy and so get lounge access and Fast Track.  They may lose this because their employer will not pay for Club Europe, even if the price is the same – bar the additional Air Passenger Duty.  It will no longer be possible to get Fast Track or lounge access with any domestic economy ticket.

There is obviously more to come on this, but you now know the main facts.


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Comments (100)

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  • Ian says:

    BAEC Avios: Domestic (U) to First long haul (Z)
    but in March!

    • JAXBA says:

      U was already a booking code used, it just won’t be a CE code at the time you fly. The aircraft will still only be one cabin

      • Joe says:

        Eh…I know. The article makes it very clear the service begins in April.

        Whats your point caller?

  • BA Sucks says:

    I’m trying not to be negative about this change, however: this is another gold benefit gone – bye bye row one. Remember: seat pitch has been reduced on all other rows. Behind the curtain, there is no distinction now between low cost carriers and BA, except BA have not, and more than likely will not, reduce their prices (e.g.: £14.99 LHR to EDI). For the regions, the only benefit of status now is ‘choose an exit row seat’. And that’s it. There is a bit more to it than just that, but I do feel that the region based flyers are being screwed a bit more by BA than the London based ones.

    • dave says:

      Depends how many TPs we receive for, say, GLA-LHR in future, might be a pay off.

    • gumshoe says:

      Would it be fair to say 2017 hasn’t been great thus far for BAEC Golds who enjoyed a G&T or three sitting in 1A on a domestic flight looking forward to retaining their status by virtue of some TP runs on AA domestic F?

      • BA Sucks says:

        You miss the point: if I’m travelling Club World or First, I’ll get Club Domestic anyway. I’ll get the lounge in EDI or NCL anyway. So, Gold benefit is now First lounge. Trade-off, of course, is: why fly BA Club, when I can fly other carriers business instead? And if latter, then why UK domestic? Not all of us do TP runs. And not all of us live in London. And – in the regions – we are limited pretty much to BA or KLM/Air France.

    • Alex W says:

      Only status benefit is exit row seats, eh? What about lounge access, extra Avios etc…?

      • BA Sucks says:

        But if I buy Club UK instead of economy, I’ll get lounge access at EDI or NCL or GLA. Extra Avios in CE is minimal on such a short distance. Which brings me back to original point: what is the point of maintaining loyalty with BA? The differentiator now is pretty much an exit row seat if you’re flying economy.

  • Sian says:

    In July I have a domestic (Y) to T flight, so if this truly comes to pass we will be happy as we have quite a long layover at LHR due to a cancellation. Lounge access would be a huge bonus.

  • James67 says:

    OT but BA: just called CS to select seats for a BKK-LHR flight in October. It wasn’t possible, agent believes this is because the aircraft deployed on the route is going to be changed. If true, it will be interesting to see whether it’s an upgrade or a downgrade.

    • Rob says:

      Depends what you see an upgrade or downgrade though! Some people think the 747s are leaky, creaky piles of poo, others love them – especially if upstairs. Some are crazy about the A380 because it is quiet, others find it too open. I personally like the 787 in CW but I want the small 2-row cabin in the front ….

      • James67 says:

        Yes, I understand and agree. I was thinking more in terms of uograding of downgrading capacity, I should have been more explicit.

  • Nick says:

    A Z class booking connecting to long haul F or J is unlikely to convert automatically but I’d imagine a quick call would sort that-the allocation of class currently is based entirely on inventory, not a specific rule by route. It’s obviously accepted that the principle of connection class is valid, so agents will be able to move you to CE.

  • Kinkell says:

    Where on the ticket do you find the fare class? Can’t see anything with any letters. On My Flights app, against fare Class Is UBG. (?). We are travelling INV-Lhr -Phx. CW 241 redemption, but because INV flight times are not ‘ connection ‘ friendly we are overnighting with family in London on both O/b and I/b legs.
    Thx

    • Mike says:

      If you go into manage my booking and open your domestic flight then select “more flight information”. You will see the selling class there. Mine is marked as x for my domestic from Glasgow to LHR followed by my F flight to Atlanta.

      • Kinkell says:

        Thx….checked it out. X domestic connecting to U for PHX.However, given that a year ago, when I booked, regardless of main flight, the domestic was all one class economy anyway, with no option to travel CE, surely as its all one ticket, should end up as a CE seat? Our luggage allowance for all flights is 3×32 kgs bags each. Anyway, for a 1hr+ flight it’s not a hardship…or maybe it is with the loss of my G&T !

  • Kevin says:

    OT but someone was asking about this the other day.

    The Grain Store now shows up in the Lounge Key app (though it references Priority Pass rather than Lounge Key in the t&cs). Same deal – £15 off the bill.

  • Trickster says:

    This will be good for next day domestic connections on CW/CE redemption flights, where, as a lowly blue, you don’t get lounge access at Heathrow.

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